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Mikey P

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I got a call from one of my best referral sources here in NV, hisneighbor fell down a staircase, cracked head on the brick wall and died.. he knows there's blood in the carpet and the guys wife doesn't want to come home until it's cleaned up but he doesn't know how much blood is in the carpet , itsonly one year old, he knows that.. but it's been so long since I've done a blood job... can you remind me of how much is too much , how much is illegal the mess with and how much is just plain immoral to mess with
 

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Anything more than splatter, I’ll tell them that it needs to come out and to call someone who handles bio clean up. But I do not know the specifics. My business neighbor is a Puroclean. I’ll usually just call him.
 
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Their is no blood police. However there is a true risk dealing with blood. It is a biohazard any disposable material need to be dealt with correctly.

Spot a few spots? Just protect yourself, skin, eye, mouth. More than a few spots a trauma/bio cleanup team might be needed. ($1,000.00-$10,000.00) depending on who you call and severity.
 

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The carpet needs to be replaced Mike.

A head wound leaves a lot of blood, even if the victim survives. In this case, there is likely so much blood there that it will continue to wick and will surely start to smell like rotten meat.

You often state your antithapy when it comes to attempting to remove urine saturation in carpet; well this is much worse.

And we haven’t even begun to talk about the risks of infection.

Replacing the carpet is best from a cleaning and odor removal point of view.

Replacing the carpet is best from the point of view of its infectious nature.

Replacing the carpet is best from an emotional and compassionate perspective as well.
 

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The carpet needs to be replaced Mike.

A head wound leaves a lot of blood, even if the victim survives. In this case, there is likely so much blood there that it will continue to wick and will surely start to smell like rotten meat.

You often state your antithapy when it comes to attempting to remove urine saturation in carpet; well this is much worse.

And we haven’t even begun to talk about the risks of infection.

Replacing the carpet is best from a cleaning and odor removal point of view.

Replacing the carpet is best from the point of view of its infectious nature.

Replacing the carpet is best from an emotional and compassionate perspective as well.
Her home owners insurance will likely pick up the cost.
 

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That’s true, and advise them to call em after you decide if you can do it or not.
 

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Did I ever mention the shotgun suicide I did

OK.....nevermind
 

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Did I ever mention the shotgun suicide I did

OK.....nevermind

I did one of those when I was 21. That was back before PPE.

It was my first understanding that a gunshot in the mouth creates an explosion.

The odor was overpowering, but what I remember most was the picture of his children that was splattered with his blood. I cannot imagine what that did to them, and they likely still suffer today because of it.
 
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we had to go to three drugstores
to get enough hydrogen peroxide
to stop the fizzing.....
i had been in business less than a year

slumlord..stupid carpet cleaner
 
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we had to go to three drugstores
to get enough hydrogen peroxide
to stop the fizzing.....
i had been in business less than a year

slumlord..stupid carpet cleaner
me too way back when I first started.
suicide attempt.
large large client. who gave me tons of business.
 

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Did I ever mention the shotgun suicide I did
OK.....nevermind

Yeah, I'm a member of the shotgun suicide cleanup club.
One time. Never again.

I still can vision trying to bag up the thick scum layer on the blood pool.
 
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Just went and looked at a blood situation myself.... probably 1-1/2-2 pints... old lady fell and hit her head. The PM couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t touch it... then I told him that not only I could be sued, but him and the building owners could aswell.... then his tune changed in a hurry....
 

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The IICRC used the uses the word "saturated" to describe level of blood when carpet and cushion should be replaced rather than cleaned. I agree that a head injury that resulted in death could leave a lot of blood, but I hesitate to give an answer sight unseen.

Spots, splatter, blood on the surface, I would try and clean. Blood soaked down to the base of the fibers, probably not.

Even for an inspection, proper PPE is necessary.

It would be better from the surviving family if this was either cleaned or removed before they see the site. Otherwise, they may never want to be in that home again.

Do have them contact their home insurance carrier. If beyond what you feel comfortable with, sub to someone trained in trauma scene cleaning.
 

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We did lots of them. Almost always a sad situation even the occasional elderly fall.

Not a service everyone should provide but a needed service. If you chose to do so, there are very good training schools for this service.
 

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Let's get something else out of the way:

I get a number of calls from people who ask about blood cleanup, but disdain PPE for this reason:

"Oh, they are elderly so I know that don't have AIDS or hepatitis (any letter) since they don't do drugs, have tattoos, and aren't having sex"

First, there are other ways to get hepatitis.

Second, the elderly are not as naive or abstentious as you might think. With the advent of viagra and similar products, older men are seeing prostitutes (see: Robert Kraft), then spreading disease to unsuspecting wives and partners.

No blood is presumed safe. Period.
 

Lyman

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I usually hit the blood with a double dose of code red and rinse until it looks good. Then out comes the 40 and rinse and repeat. Charge 250 an hour. Once I cleaned a motorhome that came from cali in a auction. That looked like a real crime seen, rv dealer was a happy camper when I left.
 
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Venereal disease is epidemic in the elderly community. Eck...
 

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A guy I know was visiting his mother at a nursing home. She was, as I remember, in her early 90s.

A middle aged maintenance man walked by and she waved at him, giving him a sweet smile and wink.

Her son asked why she responded like that.

“That’s Shorty. He’s more essential to us ladies than the people who prepare the meals”

He asked her what she meant by that.

“Do I have to spell it out son? Your mother still has the needs all women have...”

So yes, the elderly still have sex. It’s an amusing tale, but also a cautionary one
 

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Old people have all the germs and diseases. MERSA, HEP, Scabies.... Don't fool yourself.
 
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The elderly have ‘been around the block’.... don’t forget, they lived through the 60’s, the era of ‘free love’....
when I was in construction, there were 3 guys from one company that had hepatitis..... all 3 got it at the same time.... believe it or not, it was from putting nails in their mouths, it came from a box of nails that was manufactured in China.....
 
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