Still correcting Red Stains?

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Saw an interesting Facebook post today. Evidently it’s become standard for some cleaners not to attempt red stain correction? I still do, just curious if I’m being cavalier?
 

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Saw an interesting Facebook post today. Evidently it’s become standard for some cleaners not to attempt red stain correction? I still do, just curious if I’m being cavalier?


How hard is it to squirt some red remover and let it sit while you clean?

If it needs heat, that's up to Mrs Smith. Even though color loss more than likely wont happen... Still better if she says go for it.
 

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Saw an interesting Facebook post today. Evidently it’s become standard for some cleaners not to attempt red stain correction? I still do, just curious if I’m being cavalier?

Because it takes time to do, and because it requires kneeling down and plugging in a steamer or iron in some cases, cleaners with low motivation and limited energy just won't try.

It can also be depressing to put the work into a red stain and not have it respond, and given enough of those failures, the above "low/limited" issue kicks in more readily.

How hard is it to squirt some red remover and let it sit while you clean?

If it needs heat, that's up to Mrs Smith. Even though color loss more than likely wont happen... Still better if she says go for it.


Like Jerry said, the least a cleaner should do is apply the product and give it as much time as possible before coming back and cleaning the area if they aren't prepared to steam it.
 

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I saw Courtney's confession on there while he was working through that house with Kevin. I think most people don't know the efficient way to do it.

They just spray some red treatment on it, put a cold wet rag (unfolded) on top and let the steamer or iron sit on it, risking a burn or color loss from getting too hot. Therefore causing a big risk and hating the process.

But if you spray the spot, get a big wet rag folded twice...lay it beside the treated area with the iron on top of it, (preheating the rag), for about 25seconds, then put the hot side of the rag on the treated area for just 10-15 seconds with the iron on top, then flip it again, you'll see it happen much faster and much less of a risk because the hot rag is doing the work, not the iron. And if you don't see any change in color of the red, just move on. It's permanent. No time wasted.
 
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I heard that Stanley Steemer doesn't allow employees to use high powered stain removers. I do about one a month. Harvard Stain Blaster takes them right out. Had a doggie doo stain with some dye from the dog food yesterday that came out with a little Stain Blaster.
 

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I don't come across red stains nearly as often as I did 25 years ago. My customers either wised up or I have better customers these days.

More polyester and triexta (crap as it is) is part of that. The other is that red drinks don’t seem to be as popular. Coffee, tea, wine, and urine seem to be more common. I see more hair dye than food dye.
 
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I saw Courtney's confession on there while he was working through that house with Kevin. I think most people don't know the efficient way to do it.

They just spray some red treatment on it, put a cold wet rag (unfolded) on top and let the steamer or iron sit on it, risking a burn or color loss from getting too hot. Therefore causing a big risk and hating the process.

But if you spray the spot, get a big wet rag folded twice...lay it beside the treated area with the iron on top of it, (preheating the rag), for about 25seconds, then put the hot side of the rag on the treated area for just 10-15 seconds with the iron on top, then flip it again, you'll see it happen much faster and much less of a risk because the hot rag is doing the work, not the iron. And if you don't see any change in color of the red, just move on. It's permanent. No time wasted.
Yes, that does work Matt.
Only problem?
You’ve now exposed that chemical to the iron face..... I find that using a steamer works very well, it’s slower, but much safer....
 
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It all depends on the type and severity and does the customer want to pay for the attempt. I have a lot of success just using oxidizers or reducers without having to use a steamer. Depending on the job, sometimes I charge extra, sometimes not.
Do you have a real high heat unit? I've never had any luck with oxidizers.
 
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I spray a little Red One on the stain plug in my steamer and go about my setup. If it's not gone by the time I get to it I steam it out.
 

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Do you have a real high heat unit? I've never had any luck with oxidizers.
I do but usually the oxidizer doesn't need heat. I will treat with 40 volume before I prespray. The alkaline prespray will boost the action of the peroxide. A lot of times it's gone before I rinse. For residual red stains, I use a 2 part peroxide/ammonia solution. It may take up to 4 hours to work. Spray and walk away. I call the next day to check if it's gone. Usually, it is.
 

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Cobbs dye stain remover is good stuff better then Red1 I have the power steamer from Interlink $60 and it takes a minute to heat up but it will knock out a lot of stains fast.
 
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couple scoops of Sodium percarbonate in HF and ammonia running in your rinse you'll take out most reds as you prespray (seriously trashed places only) but I prefer pms solution with an iron if doing just 1 or 2 spills
 

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I rarely see them and if I do it's in trashed rentals that don't want to pay extra for removal. I usually have pretty good luck pre treating with a one part red remover and rinsing after a good dwell
 
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Yes, that does work Matt.
Only problem?
You’ve now exposed that chemical to the iron face..... I find that using a steamer works very well, it’s slower, but much safer....
Exposing the chemical to the iron face??? Who cares? NERD

I've tried the steamer route. It takes longer, and all it does is drip super hot water on the area, causing a color loss. Either my steamer is overpriced junk, (which is probably true), or it's just junk. Did I say that twice? When the iron works just fine, there's no need to experiment with other methods. I learned that from the steamer being junk
 
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I’m sure everyone here gets every red stain out
But for the mere mortals out there....

How do you pre-qualify the you’re about to charge extra for correction?


“Ms. Ma’am I have to charge you $X to attempt correction
I might be able to make it disappear, might be able to improve it, might not be able to make it budge without color lose”


But it still costs you $$extra


..L.T.A.
 
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I don’t see many unless it’s low income rentals. In those cases the property and myself have prearranged agreements on what needs to be done. If it’s a residential customer it’s usually only one small one. I’ll do my best to try to remove it. I quote enough up front over to the phone to cover a couple of heat transfers if needed. I just include it in the overall price. I don’t itemize the process. But I am honest with customer that they may be permant before I begin.
 

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