Urine Treatments

[CaffClean]

I just read an article about H2O2 and it's band-aid effect (merely killing the ammonifying bacteria temporarily) with regards to treating urine. It is an oxidizing agent, as is CLO2, which seems to be quite popular...My question, are there any advantages that CLO2 has over H2O2, or is it basically doing the same thing? If so, are there applications for these compounds in the urine treatment sphere? And should I just skip them and go straight to using enzymes as a default?

 

[Mikey P]

Do you have self worth issues?

 

[CaffClean]

Too cryptic for my brain, but yes possibly

 

[Lamesalegend]

I hated that article. Basically written by someone that manufactures an enzyme based deodorizer. Part of it may be true, the idea that oxidizers eliminate the odor but do nothing to stop the odor from returning over time. The article let one to believe that for urine its oxidizers, enzymes or replacement. No mention of the "cide' type products. Meaning products like Odorcide, Encapacide, D-Cide, Dynacide or Kleenrite's No Limit. The "cide" solutions absolutely work. They work pretty much instantly, don't leave a dirt attracting residue like the enzyme products I've used. and they don't require a second application (as long as it reaches the odor source). Encapacide and No Limit are the 2 that I choose because the are unscented so you can tell before you leave a job if you've eliminated the odor.

Encapacide recently change their formulation by adding CLO2 and lowering the price from $80 to $55 a gallon. I don't know if its better or worse yet but the old encapacide was the best

 

[CaffClean]

Interesting thanks. Those products look great.

 

[Hack Attack]

I think all urine treatments are a bandaid to some extent

Its about expectations and making it acceptable to the customer..

which is a moving target

 

[CaffClean]

Right that makes sense

 

[Jimmy L]

They are ALL band aids when the animals still live in the house.
As soon as you leave the house the dog will sniff out those areas and re-mark them ........right in front of you or the home owner. Any kind of treatment must be explained to the home owner that it is a band aid.


AND THEY LIVE IN A BACTERIAL CESSPOOL BY ALLOWING THEIR ANIMALS TO PISS AND #### IN THEIR HOUSE.

 

[CaffClean]

Yeah it's pretty disgusting Jimmy. In our house cleaning business we see rentals RUINED irreparably by irresponsible pet owners. Hardwood floors swollen with urine damage etc

 

[Mikey P]

Yeah it's pretty disgusting Jimmy. In our house cleaning business we see rentals RUINED irreparably by irresponsible pet owners. Hardwood floors swollen with urine damage etc

Don't embrace him for christ sakes, haven't we made that clear???

 

[Jimmy L]

HISS!

 

[BIG WOOD]

Quit trying to kill the bacteria and remove it. Acid is better than enzyme.

 

[Doug Rice]

Can I link a write up I just read yesterday in CleanFax? I'm going to see if I can copy and paste to make a urine treatment letter for my customers. It's a good read that I learned a lot from.
https://issa.omeclk.com/portal/wts/ugmcncqdgCaqmByf0xmeyBvh6cernvDAa

 

[Nomad74]

Quit trying to kill the bacteria and remove it. Acid is better than enzyme.

You and your anti enzyme bull.... Did someone from Chemspec in a lab coat molest you?

 

[hogjowl]

Quit trying to kill the bacteria and remove it. Acid is better than enzyme.

Not P-Sor

 

[CaffClean]

Can I link a write up I just read yesterday in CleanFax? I'm going to see if I can copy and paste to make a urine treatment letter for my customers. It's a good read that I learned a lot from.
https://issa.omeclk.com/portal/wts/ugmcncqdgCaqmByf0xmeyBvh6cernvDAa

That's the article I read too.

 

[BIG WOOD]

U

You and your anti enzyme bull.... Did someone from Chemspec in a lab coat molest you?

U IGNANT!

Just do as I say and shave your stashe. How do you spell stashe?

 

[CaffClean]

Quit trying to kill the bacteria and remove it. Acid is better than enzyme.

What acid do you recommend and what happens to the alkaline salt crystals?

 

[BIG WOOD]

What acid do you recommend and what happens to the alkaline salt crystals?

Chemspec® All Fiber Textile Rinse

All Fiber Textile Rinse is a mild, acidic solution that neutralizes alkaline cleaning residues, leaving carpet with that clean, soft feel that your customers will love. It also stabilizes dyes, prevents browning, and removes road salt, calcium deposits, and urine salts.

www.jondon.com

Dilute it at about 8:1. It turns the salt crystals back into a liquid faster than peroxide or enzymes so you can flush it out quicker, due to the low ph, and it doesn’t weaken like peroxide does

 

[Meter Maid]

I do lots of pee jobs.

Where I clean, I’ve become the “dog piss guy” and that’s fine because I charge $75-$100 per room in the Midwest. Water claw rooms are a lot more, but I rarely have to do that.

I finally stopped trying all the bullshit concoctions and just focused on getting rid of the piss.

I spray down UPT, let dwell a while, then rinse it with my T-Rex. Then I use a regular pre-spray with some Oxy for the stains and rinse again with the T-Rex.

I hit any leftover stains with peroxide before I’m done with that room.

If the room was really bad, I might spray down some CL02 and CRB it in just as a precaution, as a last step.

Haven’t had a callback with this method.

 

[CaffClean]

Thanks! Are both rinses just straight H2O?

 

[Meter Maid]

Thanks! Are both rinses just straight H2O?

I use Chemspec’s Complete Rinse because it contains a good amount of encap polymer. It’s good stuff.

 

[CaffClean]

Sounds like your process would smash it out of the ballpark. I like it.

 

[Meter Maid]

Sounds like your process would smash it out of the ballpark. I like it.

Too many people look for the easy way to handle piss.

You have to remove it... period. Acid def helps remove it. That what UPT does.

That’s why I had to walk away from people who say they handle urine using VLM and fancy deodorizers.

They are lying to customers and devaluing the industry.