Saiger Sealer

[Condog]

I asked a guy if he used Saiger Sealer.
He responded thus.

Not a fan of solvent protectant or sealer. Higher VOCs and less green than water-based and I would not do what he is doing, spraying a solvent without a respirator.

What do you think about his concerns?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Solvents dry faster and penetrate well. Water based isn't a concern to breathe but is going to take much longer to dry.

Breathing solvents are an issue if you are in small spaces with limited airflow.

Is it wise to wear one when applying, probably. As an applicator you're going to inhale more than your clients ever will.

 

[hogjowl]

And ^ should be the end of this discussion.
But the idiots will continue...

 

[Lee Stockwell]

They should stop putting gasoline in their cars

 

[Desk Jockey]

If it weren't for the poor optics, it would be more important to wear a respirator while preconditioning. You precondition every job, there is a much greater chance for inhaling those vapors.

 

[Living The Dream]

We've done a couple showers with it now. The first time I did a shower I did not use a respirator, the smell did get overwhelming. So we now we use a respirator and all is good. It's usually dry before we leave. The stuff works amazing. I've been up selling it on upholstery a lot lately and everyone that has had it applied is thrilled.

 

[Condog]

Thanks, I appreciate the information.
If I'm in an enclosed area, I'll either want fans and/or a respirator.
I'll also let customers know so they can avoid the area while it is applied and dries.
How long should I tell the clients to wait before entering room?

 

[Condog]

We've done a couple showers with it now. The first time I did a shower I did not use a respirator, the smell did get overwhelming. So we now we use a respirator and all is good. It's usually dry before we leave. The stuff works amazing. I've been up selling it on upholstery a lot lately and everyone that has had it applied is thrilled.

How long before customer can use the upholstery?

 

[hogjowl]

And ^ should be the end of this discussion.
But the idiots will continue...

If it weren't for the poor optics, it would be more important to wear a respirator while preconditioning. You precondition every job, there is a much greater chance for inhaling those vapors.

See?

 

[Desk Jockey]

See?

 

[Mikey P]

How long before customer can use the upholstery?

24 hours to be safe

 

[Cleanworks]

If it weren't for the poor optics, it would be more important to wear a respirator while preconditioning. You precondition every job, there is a much greater chance for inhaling those vapors.

That's a good reason to choose your prespray carefully.

 

[Living The Dream]

Thanks, I appreciate the information.
If I'm in an enclosed area, I'll either want fans and/or a respirator.
I'll also let customers know so they can avoid the area while it is applied and dries.
How long should I tell the clients to wait before entering room?

The smell is gone in about an hour depending on the situation. It's really only an issue when it's atomized from your sprayer and still wet. It dries in usually an hour and takes about 24 hours to cure. You should be able to go to Jon Don and read the label. It has the wait times on there. I hope this helps.

 

[bob vawter]

I asked a guy if he used Saiger Sealer.
He responded thus.

Not a fan of solvent protectant or sealer. Higher VOCs and less green than water-based and I would not do what he is doing, spraying a solvent without a respirator.

What do you think about his concerns?

Hasn't hurt me none....ugh..uhh wheez.....cough.....

 

[Condog]

Hasn't hurt me none....ugh..uhh wheez.....cough.....

Walk it off

 

[Condog]

The smell is gone in about an hour depending on the situation. It's really only an issue when it's atomized from your sprayer and still wet. It dries in usually an hour and takes about 24 hours to cure. You should be able to go to Jon Don and read the label. It has the wait times on there. I hope this helps.

It does, sometimes labels and personal history may vary.
Labels are under set conditions, life doesn't always match those conditions.

 

[Living The Dream]

It does, sometimes labels and personal history may vary.
Labels are under set conditions, life doesn't always match those conditions.

Very true

 

[hogjowl]

Like Bob’s been exposed to Super Sealer.
I suppose it whiffed by him while on his way to the mailbox on the 1st or the 15th.

 

[Condog]

Like Bob’s been exposed to Super Sealer.
I suppose it whiffed by him while on his way to the mailbox on the 1st or the 15th.

Such a snarky Babe

 

[Dolly Llama]

Such a snarky Babe

he's filling the vacuum created when Boyle forced his own exile

.L.T.A.

 

[hogjowl]

I was Boyle before it was cool

 

[bob vawter]

I was Boyle before it was cool

Yet you secretly wish you were .....me!

 

[The Great Oz]

Anyone have a link to an SDS? Saiger's site doesn't have one, and Jon-Don links to an SDS for Saiger detergent.


If used normally - low pressure, large orifice spray tip, applied below waist level - there probably isn't much of a health risk. The chosen carrier makes a difference in other ways.

If spraying near or above your face, as might be done with office panels, wall fabrics or draperies, a respirator should be required. Breathing heavy doses of fluoropolymers will earn you a trip to the emergency room.

 

[bob vawter]

Are they still giving free samples.....
I need to clean my living room?

 

[FB19087]

Anyone have a link to an SDS? Saiger's site doesn't have one, and Jon-Don links to an SDS for Saiger detergent.

It's there on the site

https://www.saigers.com/images/pdfs/Saigers-Super-Sealer-SDS.pdf

also on jondon

https://www.jondon.com/pub/media/pdf/msds_docs/MS-HC-SSSEALER.pdf

or are we talking about another chem? I see you said detergent but the sds also seems to be on both sites for the few I checked

 

[bob vawter]

I need some emulsifier but too cheap
To buy it.....

 

[hogjowl]

Just use your wife’s Tide

 

[Mikey P]

Saiger use to be a bad ass..

 

[The Great Oz]

or are we talking about another chem? I see you said detergent but the sds also seems to be on both sites for the few I checked

Fred, that link on the JD site (on the Super Sealer page) pulls up the SDS for Saiger's Deep Blue Extraction Rinse instead.

I just missed the "SDS" on the Saiger site.

Forget what I said about "should be safe" even if the product is fine, we have to consider OSHA regs. Owner Ops don't have to worry about OSHA, but this symbol on the Super Sealer SDS makes the product a no-go for us:

 

[Mikey P]

Fred, that link on the JD site (on the Super Sealer page) pulls up the SDS for Saiger's Deep Blue Extraction Rinse instead.

I just missed the "SDS" on the Saiger site.

Forget what I said about "should be safe" even if the product is fine, we have to consider OSHA regs. Owner Ops don't have to worry about OSHA, but this symbol on the Super Sealer SDS makes the product a no-go for us:

Prius or horse and buggy fleet?