Anyone here take the master rug cleaner course?

[Mikey P]

http://www.dallasrugcleaner.com/rugscho ... -154-99-50



I'm looking into it, too bad its in Dallas.

I'm really sick of that place.

 

[-JB-]

I predict the "ruggies" will say not to waste yore monies.

 

[rhyde]

I think steve roberts "dusty" has taken the class

 

[Mikey P]

I figured you did too.


Why not?

 

[Jay D]

Me too! :roll:

 

[rhyde]

Don’t get me wrong I think this is a good class but it's the same reason I have no particular desire to become a CRS. I've worked with 4 different cleanign companies over 20 years five if i coun't my own while there’s always more to learn at $6,000.00 it’s a solution looking for problem I’m not really having.



...know how much beer you can buy with 6K! :shock:

 

[Jimbo]

Actually the question would be...how much fine cabernet can you buy for 6k, Randy!

 

[Ken Snow]

Alot of Heineken, Cab & Shiraz can be bought with 6k. For newbies it may be great (a little pricey imo), but I do not think rug cleaners with decades of exp and a plant in operation are going to find enough value.

Ken

 

[KeithCo]

I went when it was the 3 day ASCR course.

If you've been to one rug plant, you've been to them all.

Ellen and Aaron do know their stuff.
It was geared probably 70% toward rug ID.

 

[Mikey P]

lets put it this way, I'm would get the bro deal...

 

[rhyde]

If you've been to one rug plant, you've been to them all.

The devil is in the detail I’d bet many new startups are more alike but most older wash plants have “their own thing going on” protocols and procedures this is the case for Talisman and Robert Mann’s both are hand wash operations founded in the late 1970’s they are radically different from each other

 

[Ken Snow]

Founded in the 70's? They are newbies :-)

 

[rhyde]

No, i'm new 10 years this year!

My point both started around the same time as hand wash businesses but very different I’d also bet Hagopian’s does some things different than other large wash plants

 

[John Watson]

If you've been to one rug plant, you've been to them all.

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Not to be rude, but I already are, How many plants have you been to???

Your statment to me sounds like the ol saying "all hamberger joints are the same"

I, myself have only been to like 10-12 large plant and about 20 or so mini plant operations and have found them all to be different, Some do have some of the same machines, but how they are set up is another story. Some have no machines, all done by hand, Some just have the wringer. My set up is in a 2 car garage, I have a elec powered 10 pole drying system which over 80% of the materials used to build it was wood, My dusting area is the space under my poles where I have a 10x13 grate that is rolled out when needed and my Miss Hildy goes to work (portable rug duster), the same area becomes my wash and scrub floor. I can garrantee you there are not any that look like mine.

 

[leesenter]

I recently took the Oriental & Specialty Rug Course through RIA in San Diego.
Aaron and Ellen taught the class.
The first day was a rehash of stuff I already knew.
Day 2 was by far the most educational class I have taken in the last decade.
Ellen is a blast.
I was supposed to attend the Certified Rug Specialist class last week but my companies were just too busy and I had to cancel. The next class is in two years.I can't wait.
I have seen the overview of the class you provided the link for. A lot of marketing stuff, how to set up a plant etc.
I think you would be satisfied with the RIA classes.

 

[captaincarpet]

Even the IICRC requires more than 6 days class training to earn any of their "Master" designations, and 3 years experience too.
Personally, I've cleaned thousands of oriental rugs, over a decade or more, and 6 days to be a "Master rug cleaner" seems a bit unrealistic to me no matter who is teaching!




p.s. $1,000.00 per day is a little high IMHO

 

[rhyde]

6 days to be a "Master rug cleaner" seems a bit unrealistic to me no matter who is teaching!

i agree with that

 

[Jose Smith]

Even the IICRC requires more than 6 days class training to earn any of their "Master" designations, and 3 years experience too.
Personally, I've cleaned thousands of oriental rugs, over a decade or more, and 6 days to be a "Master rug cleaner" seems a bit unrealistic to me no matter who is teaching!

p.s. $1,000.00 per day is a little high IMHO

I agree with everything he said. No disrespect to Aaron, who is a very good friend of mine. I do all the cleaning for him and his family who live in the area. But I would not get much out of this class.

My mentor is a 74 year old Armenian gentleman, who has been in the rug business his whole life. When I started out, I visited him whenever I wanted and spent as long as I wanted with him in his gallery learning about rugs. I have never spent a dollar doing this. I advise others to find someone who does this.

If one is not available, go to the library and read, read, read.

Jose Smith

 

[The Great Oz]

Master Rug Cleaner is the name of the school. Personally, I think the name is a bit of a dig at easy to get masters designations from other providers.

You can argue if the price is worth it, but it doesn't take too many rug cleanings to pay for, or too many mistakes to equal the cost. The idea is to short-cut the time it would take to become somewhat accomplished at rug cleaning by hanging around rug plants, asking questions or doing web research as problems come up, or learning by ruining. (Think of how many cleaners think oxidizers are OK for everything, just because they're not observant enough or experienced enough to notice what they've done.)

Aaron and Ellen teach the best in biz RIA course, so I'd have to think this course won't give you any questionable tricks to try, and it is one of the few bold enough to teach dye removal.

Mike, Since you're committed to doing things well, and I expect you to be successful cleaning rugs for a long time, I would recommend you take the course.

 

[rhyde]

How manay rugs do Aaron & Ellen clean outside of their classes every year?

 

[The Great Oz]

As a chemical producer and instructor, Aaron probably doesn't do many. As the owner of Oriental Rug Cleaning in Dallas, Ellen cleans thousands.

You'd like her clientel Randy, hardly any scruffy rugs in the shop.


PS: Don't flip her any attitude. She'll give you a down home response that'll take you ten minutes to figure out. Then you'll realize she called you a dumb apple and to go sit on your thumbs. You have to like her; it's impossible not to.

 

[rhyde]

I’m not flipping anyone attitude this is a legitimate question to ask if someone is going to drop 6K on a class. I've know Ellen since my Atiyeh Bro. days so 15+ years and I have a great deal of respect for her. BUT I don't think she washes many rugs on a day to day basis herself do attendees get to hang with her staff or is this Ellen & Aaron thing?

 

[The Great Oz]

I haven't worked the wash floor on a daily basis in years, but I'm not out of touch with what's happening there. I don't know if Ellen cleans rugs every day, only that when I've been to Ellen's shop she's had boots on and was working with the crew cleaning rugs.

I've reached the limit of my knowledge of the course itself, so someone that has actually been through it, or better yet the instructors, should give details.

 

[juniorc82]

I checked that site out, 6 freakin grand to take that coarse!!!!!!!!!!!! these people are crazy there has to be another class out there cheaper than that.