Aquamix Enrich and Seal removal

[boazcan]

I have to look at 1000 sq ft of new install with this on it for 10 days. They are complaining of "greasy" residue on tile. Is this the same as Miracle Seal and Enrich?

Over the years, I have taken off dozens of improper coatings. Has anyone dealt specifically with this product?

I cannot recall this product in specific. I carry 5-6 different strippers on the truck as well as pads, brushes, etc.

 

[dealtimeman]

What type of grout is it?

 

[boazcan]

Nothing special that I know of, sanded grout.

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[dealtimeman]

I would call custom tomorrow and ask technical how to break it down.

I called them on how to remove there color seal but they told me it couldn't be removed. We removed all of it.

Let us know what they tell you.

 

[boazcan]

I have a technical bulletin explaining, but it really doesn't say much. I'll post it. Thanks!

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[boazcan]

It has titanium dioxide in it.

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[Bee Busy]

Test your strippers, Shorebest 2790, Acetone or Lacquer Thinner. That would be my start

 

[Cameron DeMille]

Acetone and lacquer thinner will remove some of the residue, it's pretty greasy stuff. You have to really scrub to get the excess off, and I would never use it on a floor.

Klenztone #3 (Ammonium Biflouride) or Prosoco Wax & Cure remover would likely remove all of it.

 

[boazcan]

http://www.charlesluck.com/pdfs/problem_solving/removal_of_enrich_n_seal_residue.pdf

 

[Cameron DeMille]

http://www.charlesluck.com/pdfs/problem_solving/removal_of_enrich_n_seal_residue.pdf

that's withing 48 hours. Once it's fully cured, it's a different story.

 

[boazcan]

The 2nd part of it talks about letting dwell for 2 hours

The main ingredient in the Aquamix sealer remover is 2-Butoxyethanol.

A rather common ingredient in most removers and cleaners. The pH of the Aqua remover is much lower than I thought it would be - 4.5-5.5.

We will find out tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[dealtimeman]

when we removed their(aquaseal-custom)color seal we let it dwell almost 4 hours. applied gel stripper covered with plastic and keep moving by the tine we were done applying the stripper,we went back and wet all of it with floor stripper to make sure it wouldn't dry out.

 

[clean image]

need to find out exactly how much product was used on how much sq.

depends on what your trying to remve it from? travertine/ straight edge, or is it castle install? marble, slate??

execellent product in right hands for the right stone for desired results

stone finish type ?? and thickness will determine whether you can remove mechanically

 

[boazcan]

need to find out exactly how much product was used on how much sq.

depends on what your trying to remve it from? travertine/ straight edge, or is it castle install? marble, slate??

execellent product in right hands for the right stone for desired results

stone finish type ?? and thickness will determine whether you can remove mechanically

Porcelain tile - that's why they have issues.

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[Cameron DeMille]

Use stone pro stone scrub. It will abrade it off the surface. Use with a tan pad and degreaser.

What retard puts enhancer on porcelain?

 

[dealtimeman]

have you taken a few chems over to do spot test?

did you call custom?

 

[boazcan]

Use stone pro stone scrub. It will abrade it off the surface. Use with a tan pad and degreaser.

What retard puts enhancer on porcelain?

Good idea. I only have 2 bottles for 1000 sq ft :sly:

A toweltard.




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[boazcan]

have you taken a few chems over to do spot test?

did you call custom?

Not yet. Tomorrow.

Custom is the one that put that spec sheet that I posted the link to earlier.

I have some degreaser that we use on concrete that has the same main ingredient as the Aqua remover.

Although I like the abrasive idea mentioned earlier.


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[Cameron DeMille]

Good idea. I only have 2 bottles for 1000 sq ft :sly:

A toweltard.


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We just squirt squigly lines on the floor, then use the water/cleaner in the tank. It might last you. We can overnight it too. Make the customer pay for it. unless Rob has someone near you.

 

[boazcan]

Wow - what a mess. I should have taken pictures, but I only shot a few of some of the grout issues.

He actually did a good job putting it on the grout. Problem is he smeared onto the ceramic tile and then let it dry (problem #1). Hardened in distinct droplets/areas around the grout lines themselves. He then applied Kleenstrip gel all over the floor to take it off the areas that it had hardened. This left quite the residue because it did not remove (extraction or a million towel method) - (problem #2). He had at least 2 other companies come over and put who knows what on the floor trying to get it off. (problem #3)

First step - apply solvent based sealer stripper (miracle product) on floor and scrub with brush and black pad. vacuum up.
Second step - apply a stripper degreaser combo and let sit. Scrub with brush and pad.
Third step - apply the stone scrub. Wish I would have had more. Scrub with brush and pad.
Forth step - vac off, then turbo the tile/grout.
Fifth step - dry buff with acetone spray
Sixth step - spot clean/remove thick spots with the miracle stripper, kleenstrip, and acetone. Razor blades, black pads, brown pads, etc were used in this process.
Seventh step - final dry buff with acetone spray.
Eight step - get check and go home.

900 sq ft - almost 6 hours from pull up to pull out. Machine time 1 hour.


Thanks for input guys - put some of them to use. Floor was like brand new when we left except for some whiting in the grout lines from some sealer not being in grout lines. We were hired to get it off the tile as was a severe slip hazard for everyone. Would not have done the job if we would have been asked to get out of grout lines. It would have been impossible since it was an enhancer and darkened the grout quite a bit.

 

[Cameron DeMille]

over 100 square feet/hour for something like that isn't bad. Wait until you get a really bad one.

 

[dealtimeman]

What do you normally charge for coating removal?

We charge from 3.50 to 15.00 a square foot depending what we are removing and how long it will take.

 

[boazcan]

$1300 for that job. Between $1.5 to $3.



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[boazcan]

99.9% of the public have no idea what's involved so it is hard to justify any price up front.

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[boazcan]

If I would get a bad one, I would go for my paver sealer remover, Dad's. And tell them to move out for a couple of days.

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[kingjoelking]

Denatured alcohol does a good job. Dont ask me how I know.