Is encapsulation carpet cleaning going to replace truckmounts? From what I read it is already happening...Can't say it works for tile and grout (my full time job) but carpet, seems like the method works awesome! Easier and lighter equipment to handle, faster dry times (like instantaneous), great scrubbing/emulsification for home and residential carpets! I'm totally impressed with the 10" crb I just got...Even thinking of offering carpet cleaning as a service again...Seems like a great senior citizen job! LOL
Are truckmounts going to disappear with the "crb" technology?
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mirf
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I was thinking about that too. I can not see that happening to be honest about it but I can see changes to the truck mount and what we need it to do.
I think that is true in the tile work also. The other possible result may be more carpet returning to the home. Hardwood floors were in a lot of homes here in the northeast and were covered over because of wear and the expense and mess of refinishing
I think that is true in the tile work also. The other possible result may be more carpet returning to the home. Hardwood floors were in a lot of homes here in the northeast and were covered over because of wear and the expense and mess of refinishing
Interesting topic, thanks for raising it.
Personally, I don't believe that HWE as we all know it will be obliterated by encapsulation, bonnet or CRB type cleaning.
There will always be a need for each and every type or method depending on the circumstances.
Encap; has been a success for me due to the inaccessibility of truck mounts, or the noise, odours and other factors associated with portables in the properties that I have targeted.
I DON'T chase rental or residential type properties except in high rise condo's.
To a degree, carpets will always need to be flushed, especially if regular, good maintenance (read proper vacuuming), is not carried out in a professional manner.
Urine problems will also be an issue for proper removal, which may also need repair work to underlay & slab.
I can also see more "flood pumper" types of equipment coming onto the market for WDR, where encap;/bonnet type systems are not practical.
That's my view from down under.
Personally, I don't believe that HWE as we all know it will be obliterated by encapsulation, bonnet or CRB type cleaning.
There will always be a need for each and every type or method depending on the circumstances.
Encap; has been a success for me due to the inaccessibility of truck mounts, or the noise, odours and other factors associated with portables in the properties that I have targeted.
I DON'T chase rental or residential type properties except in high rise condo's.
To a degree, carpets will always need to be flushed, especially if regular, good maintenance (read proper vacuuming), is not carried out in a professional manner.
Urine problems will also be an issue for proper removal, which may also need repair work to underlay & slab.
I can also see more "flood pumper" types of equipment coming onto the market for WDR, where encap;/bonnet type systems are not practical.
That's my view from down under.
Desk Jockey
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FB19087
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What technology?
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Desk Jockey
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The "Grinding shit in" 
Hasn't changed too much. We used to do it with a Hild Pile lifter when I helped my dad as a kid. That's what got his started in the business.
Vacuum, spread the compound, unplug the vac motor and the counter rotating brushes worked it into the pile. The plugged the vac motor back in and vacuumed. Smelled great and look good for the method used. That was in the late 60's and it had been around long before that. Its definitely "Old School".
Hasn't changed too much. We used to do it with a Hild Pile lifter when I helped my dad as a kid. That's what got his started in the business.
Vacuum, spread the compound, unplug the vac motor and the counter rotating brushes worked it into the pile. The plugged the vac motor back in and vacuumed. Smelled great and look good for the method used. That was in the late 60's and it had been around long before that. Its definitely "Old School".
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Carbonated Carpet Woman
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Only one kind of anything is offered in Communist countries, right? Oh, wait ....
The "Grinding shit in"
Hasn't changed too much. We used to do it with a Hild Pile lifter when I helped my dad as a kid. That's what got his started in the business.
Do you mean back............................................................
Desk Jockey
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Here ya go. That's my uncle running the pile lifter.
That's me edging.
Funny but I still feel 18-years old.
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regarossa
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I don't see it going the way of the typewriter. I do see the technician changing into a fellow that's well versed on multiple methods and can do equally as well with them all.
Steve Lawrence
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CRB's can do something truck mounts can't and vice versa. They'll both be around for a while.
Desk Jockey
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Very true. if the area can't be out of service, its your best option.
Richard, I'm seeing this scenario happening more often over the last few years, especially as more business are trading for longer hours.
Desk Jockey
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There are certain operations more prone to that environment. Airports, Casino's, Hospitals, Nursing Homes. While you can still clean them with other methods some facilities managers will only want the results from dry.
Art Kelley
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It would be easier to answer that question by simply running a rotary extractor hooked to a TM over a "finished" job that was encapped by a CRB on a normal to heavy soil load carpet; the kind I encounter every day, not a piece of cake already clean carpet.
Zee
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To answer the thread header subject: no way.
No way any crb will REPLACE a truckmount or heck even a nice porty.
As I'm running the crb the past two days specifically watching what it does...I came to the conclusion, that I basically have even less respect towards those "professionals", that use crb only as a cleaning method.
I wouldn't feel comfortable if I didn't at least go over the area -that just got done crb-ed- with pads to "extract".
So for it to replace truckmounts... NO.
For it to replace any method.... NO.
It should just be viewed as one tool in the "arsenal".
No way any crb will REPLACE a truckmount or heck even a nice porty.
As I'm running the crb the past two days specifically watching what it does...I came to the conclusion, that I basically have even less respect towards those "professionals", that use crb only as a cleaning method.
I wouldn't feel comfortable if I didn't at least go over the area -that just got done crb-ed- with pads to "extract".
So for it to replace truckmounts... NO.
For it to replace any method.... NO.
It should just be viewed as one tool in the "arsenal".
Desk Jockey
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I appreciate your response Zee since you offer multiple systems and are not a one trick pony. I think it's very limited as a stand alone system. Not that it can't make some improvement but is the end product on par with other methods.
Zee
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Thanks Doc,
I always view these discussions open minded, even if Mardy the VonSchrader dude didn't think so...I am -like many of us here - run on a daily bases: truckmount with wand and Rv360xl, 175s, Orbots, Cimexes, CRB etc. I think we can honestly say to the one trick ponies that we know better and nothing really replaces other methods.
(oh and Mardy - in case you're lurking- remember I used to run VonSchrader too, for years)
I always view these discussions open minded, even if Mardy the VonSchrader dude didn't think so...I am -like many of us here - run on a daily bases: truckmount with wand and Rv360xl, 175s, Orbots, Cimexes, CRB etc. I think we can honestly say to the one trick ponies that we know better and nothing really replaces other methods.
(oh and Mardy - in case you're lurking- remember I used to run VonSchrader too, for years)
Desk Jockey
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I think having other systems gives you options. The key is to be objective, base your decisions to use the system on the situation. Not predetermined on how you will clean due to only owning one or two systems.
Nampa Carpet Cleaning
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The carpet still needs to be rinsed after the CRB. The results are much better that way.
cu
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What would you say if someone told you of a chem that keeps on cleaning after your done. With your crb or pad machine .
I'm using such a chem right now . It's early days yet. As i,ve only had it for 2 weeks and its not used on every job. But it's interesting stuff. If the claims are to be believed .
I'm using such a chem right now . It's early days yet. As i,ve only had it for 2 weeks and its not used on every job. But it's interesting stuff. If the claims are to be believed .
Desk Jockey
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Cu do you really want to leave something active in the carpet? I suppose Peroxide will convert to water but I think I'd have some concerns.
cu
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Well that's what makes this stuff interesting . It's using probiotics to eat bacteria .
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FB19087
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That doesn't make any sense..............
Desk Jockey
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Not a good idea. I think everyone's goal should be to leave it as neutral a state as possible. Active enzymes don't sound like a wise idea to me. Pretty cleaning to digest bacteria but cleaning should follow to remove dead or dormant remains.
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Mikey P
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Don't rash my dogge.
Desk Jockey
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Sorry! I hate pseudo science to trump up sales. 
