joeynbgky
Supportive Member
Does anyone have problems with berber streaking? My technician is asking me. He says sometimes there are lines in the carpet. Any have any suggestions how to fix this?
Berber help!
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Jack May
That Kiwi
Check/replace your jets.
John
John
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
I agree..sounds like wand streaking...........
BradFenstermaker
Member
Is your tech doing vacuum only passes? After a cleaning pass
Sometimes just overspray will do this.
Your sprayer jet or a wand jet may be clogged.
Sometimes just overspray will do this.
Your sprayer jet or a wand jet may be clogged.
joeynbgky
Supportive Member
my tech does go over the area again after cleaning it with a dry pass.. It only happens on some berber..
Clogged jet? Dirty wand? really?
Clogged jet? Dirty wand? really?
ruff
Member
Is it Olefin Berber?
How heavily soiled?
Is streaking just at edges of wand?
How heavily soiled?
Is streaking just at edges of wand?
joeynbgky
Supportive Member
not heavily soiled, jus normal
Not at the edges of wand just at the top and bottom stroke
not sure if it was olefin berber
Not at the edges of wand just at the top and bottom stroke
not sure if it was olefin berber
Jack May
That Kiwi
Sounds like he's not flushing from start to stop.
Might be a flushing related issue if not on the whole length of the stroke. Get him to overlap better, or get more synchronised at the start and stop of each stroke with pulling the trigger.
John
Might be a flushing related issue if not on the whole length of the stroke. Get him to overlap better, or get more synchronised at the start and stop of each stroke with pulling the trigger.
John
Dolly Llama
Number 5
joeynbgky said:
poor wand technique ...he's leaving puddles.
Stop "sawing" back and forth with wet strokes.
..L.T.A.
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
You have to let off the wand trigger before you hit the end of your stroke. You'll be fighting these lines if you don't learn to do this.
G
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Doug Cox said:
Yep. Let off the trigger but keep pulling back a few inches with just suction before starting next stroke.
Ron Werner
Member
If the streaks are in line with the wand path, and not at the back of the stroke, its soil in the carpet that hasn't been removed.
Vacuum Vacuum Vacuum, esp to lift the loops
Berber is notorious for holding soil
Spray it with just water and a lot of the spots and soil will disappear, then it takes a good thorough flush to rinse it out.
Can't clean berber too quickly.
Vacuum Vacuum Vacuum, esp to lift the loops
Berber is notorious for holding soil
Spray it with just water and a lot of the spots and soil will disappear, then it takes a good thorough flush to rinse it out.
Can't clean berber too quickly.
Greg Cole
Member
Finally- this is precisely why our guys only dry-clean berber.
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
So, the berber is still dirty after your boys clean it?
Greg- That is the saddest ass reply I have ever heard.
Greg- That is the saddest ass reply I have ever heard.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
gregcole said:
because their too inept to learn proper wand technique? :roll:
98% of the probs cleaners have with berber are operator error
..L.T.A.
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Probably wand technique, as you've been told. A digital pic of the problem would help.
Berbers aren't that much of an issue, but they're unforgiving of mistakes that cut pile styles tend to hide.
Tell us your technique on berbers, start to finish. You'll get some criticism from the less tactful, but sometimes thats the best way to learn. After a few words of rebuke or mild insults, you'll get some great tips.
Berbers aren't that much of an issue, but they're unforgiving of mistakes that cut pile styles tend to hide.
Tell us your technique on berbers, start to finish. You'll get some criticism from the less tactful, but sometimes thats the best way to learn. After a few words of rebuke or mild insults, you'll get some great tips.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
Spurling said:
Paul, (and others with otherwise good suggestions..but wrong for the prob)
Look what he said;
joeynbgky said:
I got a hundred dollar bill that says he's leaving puddles due to multi back and forth wet strokes.
he needs to thoroughly suck up those puddles with dry strokes, or change his wanding style (especially on berbers)
as Jim mentioned, Berbers will show poor technique that cut piles won't
..L.T.A.
Greg Cole
Member
Larry - 98% of all problems cleaning carpet are operator error! If you eliminate the possibility for error - there is none...
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
Yeah, but you end up with a substandard job and still dirty carpet.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
gregcole said:
if it works for you, Greg, fine and dandy.
personally I prefer to teach the Little Genies how to do it RIGHT
IMO, that's much more conducive to long term repeat custys.
I'm curious what "dry cleaning" is to you.
Is that solvents?
host/capture powders?
or Spray 'N wipe with bonnets?
..L.T.A.
joeynbgky
Supportive Member
Well, some of the berber problems come from carpet that was previously cleaned by chem dry or heavens best. Only some. We will work on our wand technigues though. And take some pictures.. Could the previous "dry cleaing methods" be causing some of this?
Dolly Llama
Number 5
joeynbgky said:
note likely, unless there was so much foam in the hoses recovery was minimal.
The would accentuate poor technique even more
sounds like you're using a typical 2 jet AW29 wand.
if so, It's actually very good cleaning wand at "moderate" psi
...350 and below.
Potential probs start happening around 450psi with it.
Most notable is injecting solution into the backing....causing long dry times.
Look at the jets.
If the last 2 numbers are 04, put in some 03 and turn PSI down to 300-350 range.
It should clean just as well, just as fast, only with less impact to soak backings
but you still have to suck up the puddles left at the end of strokes
..L.T.A.
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
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What you have is zebra striping. You need to listen to these guys, they know what they're talking about. It's all in the stroke. Your tech will need to learn before your granny can learn. (glide or no glide). Also very common with cgd olefin,or padded.(the cheap SHIT). Releasing the spray before and the end of your stroke will help you huge.joeynbgky said:
BE SURE TO DRY STROKE AND OVER LAP the front and back end strokes. You may need to press on the wand for the dry stroke.
ps Good luck with Grandma.
