FredC
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That isn’t functional?
Butler system driveshaft grinding sound
- Thread starter Andrew from Simply Clean
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Cleanworks
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How were the old belts put on?
Andrew from Simply Clean
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I just can't use the 3/8" ratchet that's used to bend the tensioner down so I can get the new belts around the crankshaft pulley
Andrew from Simply Clean
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I'm not sure
Lee Stockwell
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Looks like a fresh break.
Cleanworks
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If the tensioner wasn't there when you took it apart, it probably means he was using the alternator or something else, maybe the air condition pulley as the tensioner. If it was running before, there shouldn't be any difference now. Replace with the same size belts that were on before and just loosen off one of the components so you can get it on and tighten it up. Most of the time it's the alternator
FredC
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youcan't get a lever/bar in somehow to pull the tensioner up/down?
Cleanworks
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Tensioner is gone.
Lee Stockwell
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Looks like a stock GM tensioner. Clamp a Vice-grip on it to install the belt.
Then order a new tensioner online to install later.
Lee Stockwell
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AutoZone, Advance, O'Reilly, NAPA.
Usually under $50.
Usually under $50.
Andrew from Simply Clean
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I thought about using a vice grip but it seems like its risky to try that I'm not sure
hogjowl
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You jerk
Lee Stockwell
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No risk, clamp on, pull down, push belt on, let tension off tensioner, unclamp.
Smile!
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Hate to say it but that looks rough.
I would get tensioner and pulley combo.
But for now it's going to be tough but maybe can find a way to pull that downward towards the center of crankshaft area and get belts on if you have work scheduled and no other cleaning unit
I would get tensioner and pulley combo.
But for now it's going to be tough but maybe can find a way to pull that downward towards the center of crankshaft area and get belts on if you have work scheduled and no other cleaning unit
hogjowl
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Yeah, pull down on that towards the center.
That’ll do it!
That’ll do it!
Rob Grady
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That would have been a knuckle buster when that let go!
Dolly Llama
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kind of with the others...
might be more a PITA compared to ratchet in the square
but seems like that tensioner wouldn't be a big deal to clamp onto to rotate with visegrips or a short pry bar ....most certainly with shroud and fan off methinks
(If they were removed for working space to replace drive shaft??)
with the others too
if fan 'n shroud is off, (and no utility disconnect notice looming to hamper fundage ) I'd damn sure change it while open and piece of cake to get to.
Just to eliminate PITA bar or visegrip belt changes in the future
..L.T.A.
might be more a PITA compared to ratchet in the square
but seems like that tensioner wouldn't be a big deal to clamp onto to rotate with visegrips or a short pry bar ....most certainly with shroud and fan off methinks
(If they were removed for working space to replace drive shaft??)
with the others too
if fan 'n shroud is off, (and no utility disconnect notice looming to hamper fundage ) I'd damn sure change it while open and piece of cake to get to.
Just to eliminate PITA bar or visegrip belt changes in the future
..L.T.A.
Andrew from Simply Clean
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Didn't have to remove the fan and shroud to get the driveshaft installed. Everything else is done besides the 2 front belts
steve_64
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Slip
Slip them on the pulleys. Its not that hard to do.
hogjowl
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Far out dude
Andrew from Simply Clean
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Didn't have to remove the fan and shroud to get the driveshaft installed. Everything else is done besides the 2 front
There's so much tension on that tensioner King Kong would have trouble slipping those belts on
FredC
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so take the shroud off and use a bar if there isn't enough room.....or the vice grips like Lee suggested
Dolly Llama
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I don't think it's quite as easy as this, Steveo
(skip forward to 20 second mark)
.L.T.A.
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Its not that easy but you wedge it on as tight as you can get it and bump the starter if you have to and it will spin on. It can damage belts I hear but I've never had problems doing it that way.
Andrew from Simply Clean
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Got them on! Good call with the vice grip.
Andrew from Simply Clean
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Lee Stockwell
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Now, while that tensioner is absolutely functional (hold the belt tight), please plan on getting a new one soon, or sooner.
It will save you some grief when you next need to change that belt. Get a SPARE new belt too. Murphy is out to get you. Be prepared.
It will save you some grief when you next need to change that belt. Get a SPARE new belt too. Murphy is out to get you. Be prepared.
Andrew from Simply Clean
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Good idea.
Mikey P
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No belts, shafts or noisy ass starters to deal with.
Cleans carpet, tile and grout, wood, brick and even polishes stone.
No belts, shafts or noisy ass starters to deal with.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Get behind me Satan...
