Butler wont bring up RPM's in cold weather? See this video

[Mark Saiger]

Had a bunch of calls with the cold weather today....

Had Butler's with the vacuum control pods that must have had some moisture in them....they would not allow the RPM's to come up....

And one of them, it wouldn't let the RPM's come down after cleaning.

Typically it is because the vacuum pods will get moisture in them over time, and just driving from a heated shop to 5 miles away, they can freeze up.

You need to move them by had if you can....or heat them with hair dryer or heat gun if in the field...

Or, can try some isopropyl alcohol or ws 40 in the hole of the pod and drain to see if can get the moisture out a bit but replacement is definatley needed.

They are not that expensive (was around $38 per pod last time I bought some)

Now the newer Butlers run off electronic control module....Much better!

Here is a video showing some locations of the pods and also what they look like and how to adjust them.

Mark Saiger
www.saigers.com
"Bring on the Blue!"

 

[Lee Stockwell]

You are so cruel to your Butlers.

 

[Mark Saiger]

You are so cruel to your Butlers.

They treat me so good too.....

Just been the best for our working environment....

Don't know if I could do any other unit as dependable as they really have been (despite a GM fuel pump problem....LOL)

 

[GeneMiller]

It must suck being somewhere so cold your stuff freezes.

Gene

 

[Lee Stockwell]

But he never cooks in August either.

 

[dgardner]

Mark - have you tried methanol (i.e. Heet)? Truck drivers use it to de-ice their brake air lines.

https://www.grainger.com/product/HEET-Antifreeze-Water-Remover-2AEP6?opr=APPD&pbi=2AEP7

 

[Mark Saiger]

Mark - have you tried methanol (i.e. Heet)? Truck drivers use it to de-ice their brake air lines.

https://www.grainger.com/product/HEET-Antifreeze-Water-Remover-2AEP6?opr=APPD&pbi=2AEP7

Yes I have....

It will work for a little while, but my understanding they usually start to leak air (thus taking on moisture) and will continue to do so...

Replacement was the only permanent cure

 

[Steve Lawrence]

Never any trouble with the pods here in lower Michigan but I do like the electronic setting better--so steady and never goes out of adjustment.

 

[Larry Henson]

Mark, here is the part number for your vacuum pods (they are choke pull-offs for older vehicles with a carb) hygrade part number CPA216.
Google the part #. There are some on eBay for $20 with free shipping. I would give you the link but it won't let me since I don't have 3 posts yet.

 

[dgardner]

Welcome to Mikeysboard Larry! I did a double take, as I have a friend named Larry Hanson!

When you have a chance head over to "How to become a supportive member and new member introductions" and tell us a little about yourself!

 

[Mark Saiger]

Mark, here is the part number for your vacuum pods (they are choke pull-offs for older vehicles with a carb) hygrade part number CPA216.
Google the part #. There are some on eBay for $20 with free shipping. I would give you the link but it won't let me since I don't have 3 posts yet.

Thank you Larry

Really appreciate it and glad you are here.

Really look forward to hearing more about you and your helpful info

My brother has a unit that needs then pods

Gonna call him right now

 

[Spurlington]

Can they be insulated? Like with a styrofoam spigot cover.

 

[Mark Saiger]

Can they be insulated? Like with a styrofoam spigot cover.

They actually don't need to be...and it wouldn't help.

They just start freezing up when the diaphragm inside starts to wear out and suck in moisture.

They will go a long time before needing replacement...and as you can see....can be pretty inexpensive.