Challenger OP

[aaronjumps]

What are your thoughts of the Challenger OP machine?

Has anyone, or does anyone here currently used their chemicals?

Interested to hear what you know.

 

[Lamesalegend]

Absolutely fantastic machine. I use two CCS Conqueorors which are discontinued clones of the Challenger. My first one ive used continually for the past 23 years. Not one problem or repair needed (just replace velcro on pad driver and replace cable on the handle every couple of years). I actually prefer these wheel up style OP machines because you can move them side to side rather than straight back and forth like the newer wheels down OP machines

 

[hogjowl]

Does Mikey sell it?

 

[Mikey P]

 

[hogjowl]

Impossible for either of us

 

[Mikey P]

Impossible for either of us

AAron thinks I was talking to him....lol

 

[SteamwayPro]

Challenger was a good machine back in the 1990's but it's now 2023

You want the Best Wheels Up OP in 2023 buy a TOPS Odyssey

 

[Dolly Llama]

Challenger was a good machine back in the 1990's but it's now 2023

You want the Best Wheels Up OP in 2023 buy a TOPS Odyssey

what are the differences?

..L.T.A.

 

[Mikey P]

what are the differences?

..L.T.A.

The TOPS can be swung side by side like a 175, with no glider/slider under the pad.

The old school jackhammers only went left OR right, if you want to go the other way you have to turn your body a full 180, and your pad is covered 50% or more by the frisbee..

 

[AlienAgent]

What are your thoughts of the Challenger OP machine?

I haven’t personally used one, but it looks like it would wear your arms and hands out like a 175 rotary will. Especially on those big jobs.

I use a Phoenix and Cimex, both are wheels down machines. I will never go back to a wheels up machine, except in those certain situations- super tight areas, needing to “heel” the pad’s edge into the floor or grout line, etc.- where it just makes sense.

 

[SteamwayPro]

Challenger is slow, ugly, needs a glider on most carpet, hard to maneuver on some carpet even with a glider, has a velcro driver, has small wheels so it must be carried up and down stairs

Odyssey is fast, looks professional, doesn't need a glider, easy to maneuver, has big wheels, and a Malish Driver that is more aggressive and digs deeper on residential carpet


Odyssey is the 2023 Lexus of OP Machines

Challenger is the 1990 VW Beetle of OP Machines


I've used both
Buy the Odyssey
The new owners at TOPS are good people making good machines


I have nothing against anybody at Challenger but Odyssey is a much better OP Machine


Odyssey and Challenger are Wheels Up OP and best suited for small Residential

If your doing Commercial or big Residential you might want to consider a Wheels Down OP

 

[icleancarpetz]

I have a Challenger OP. I dont use it anymore. No market for it in my area.
Fantastic machine. Despite what other say, easy to maneuver, carry and load back into your van.
I have one for sale if anyone is interested for a fraction of the cost of topps or any other machine.
As far as the chemistry juice goes, use what works for you. My experience has been a good encap will do the job either residential or commercial. Add a little booster, kaboom!

 

[SteamwayPro]

For the majority of carpets Challenger does maneuver easily with a glider

Dense thick carpet is where Challenger gets hard to maneuver

Never used any Challenger chemicals

I like the the Challenger bonnets. They're thin, aggressive, and absorb

17'' Challenger bonnets work good with Odyssey

Lifting Challenger into the van is easy

Carrying Challenger (65 pounds) up and down stairs is a Pain in the Ass

 

[SteamwayPro]

Challenger was bought in 2013

Odyssey was bought in 2021

 

[hogjowl]

Which pos is which?

 

[Cleanworks]

Challenger was bought in 2013

Odyssey was bought in 2021



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The wheels on the Odyssey make it much easier to go up stairs.

 

[SteamwayPro]

Which pos is which?

hahaha

The rusting Dark Green OP is the Challenger



HUGE Profits using VLM

I turn down work that VLM can't handle

I don't clean Rat Nasty and Urine Trashed Shitholes anymore

And I don't want to work in that kind of Filth anymore



I CRB every Residential Carpet before I extract with an OP



It's not the 1990's anymore

It's 2023 and VLM Works

The encaps we have to work with today are phenomenal



I also have a tankless Orbot Vibe that I use for Residential

It's a wheels down OP

I have a Malish Driver made for the Vibe not the Velcro Driver

Malish Driver is more aggressive than Velcro Driver

 

[Mikey P]

Which pos is which?

Do you spell out "walk" around your dog too?