Cleaning companies refusing to do work

joeynbgky

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Big cleaning companies including a servicemaster refusing to clean carpet in churchs. I also have a church that needs a strip and wax done on its vct tile. I don't do it anymore... this church offered to pay double just to get it done. They say no because the owners are jehovahs witnesses. Who cares if its a church. Why are they leaving money on the table for religious beliefs? Isn't this illegal? Atleast they haven't knocked on my door for a few weeks

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I have refused to clean the abortion clinic here a few times. I refuse to walk into that Death mill.

My daughter's birth-mother refused to go to through with her abortion at the last minute.

We adopted my daughter when she was 2 days old. That was 19 years ago.

I think you can refuse to work for whoever you want.
 

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who's refusing ??

the company is refusing to clean a J-Witt church?
Or the company is J-Witt owned and refuses to clean a pagan temple :lol: :lol:

you can't tell me there are no CC'rs in or near that city that will do the work.
I know it seems the Jwitts have a monopoly is this biz, cause there ARE a BUNCH all levels from top to bottom of this industry and they can choose to not clean for or clean for anyone their conscience allows...
but gimme a freekin' break..... they "can't" find anyone ????:roll:


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jehovah's witnesses won't do work or "hang" with just anyone..

buddy that used to work for my parents...nice guy..j-witt tho and he wouldn't hang with me..no barbeque or ridin four wheelers..they only hang with their own "kind"

no judging here but some sects/cult type groups r like that...stay away from you cuz their beliefs are sooo secluded...and sacred to them..
 

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joeynbgky said:
Big cleaning companies including a servicemaster refusing to clean carpet in churchs. I also have a church that needs a strip and wax done on its vct tile. I don't do it anymore... this church offered to pay double just to get it done. They say no because the owners are jehovahs witnesses. Who cares if its a church. Why are they leaving money on the table for religious beliefs? Isn't this illegal? Atleast they haven't knocked on my door for a few weeks

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Are you talking about B&B? They are witnesses and NO witness is allowed to step foot in a church for work or any other reason.. And no its not illegal.
 

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I have recieved many good church referals from JW cleaning cos. Its there belief, not mine, Some of my beliefs they disagree with.
 

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I will work for most anyone. Unless I know bad things are going on at the establishment that wants work done. Residential to me its not my business but some institutions whose actions could affect many people i may feel uncomfortable with. Thats just my personal choice.
 

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Ponyboy Curtis said:
We will clean for anyone that will pay us..


same here.

hell, one year we cleaned a Kingdom Hall, a Catholic church and Holy Roller BaBDist church all in the same month :shock:

Some can only eat vegetables , some can eat meat.
One shouldn't look down on the other


22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.[c]

or for my friend's that don't trust the pAgan's translation....

. 22 The faith that you have, have it in accord with yourself in the sight of God. Happy is the man that does not put himself on judgment by what he approves. 23 But if he has doubts, he is already condemned if he eats, because [he does] not [eat] out of faith. Indeed, everything that is not out of faith is sin.



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Re: Re: Cleaning companies refusing to do work

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joeynbgky said:
Big cleaning companies including a servicemaster refusing to clean carpet in churchs. I also have a church that needs a strip and wax done on its vct tile. I don't do it anymore... this church offered to pay double just to get it done. They say no because the owners are jehovahs witnesses. Who cares if its a church. Why are they leaving money on the table for religious beliefs? Isn't this illegal? Atleast they haven't knocked on my door for a few weeks

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Are you talking about B&B? They are witnesses and NO witness is allowed to step foot in a church for work or any other reason.. And no its not illegal.
Yup one is b&b are u from here?

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Re: Re: Cleaning companies refusing to do work

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BillC said:
joeynbgky said:
Big cleaning companies including a servicemaster refusing to clean carpet in churchs. I also have a church that needs a strip and wax done on its vct tile. I don't do it anymore... this church offered to pay double just to get it done. They say no because the owners are jehovahs witnesses. Who cares if its a church. Why are they leaving money on the table for religious beliefs? Isn't this illegal? Atleast they haven't knocked on my door for a few weeks

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Are you talking about B&B? They are witnesses and NO witness is allowed to step foot in a church for work or any other reason.. And no its not illegal.
Yup one is b&b are u from here?

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No not from there but worked there for 16yrs. Had several contracts there for vct tile but the only carpet cleaning I do there are referrals. I mainly work from Glasgow to Etown and everything in between.
 

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Bill I need a carpet cleaner in etown for some of my new apartments. Its a long drive for me. Glasgow I can handle

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joeynbgky said:
Bill I need a carpet cleaner in etown for some of my new apartments. Its a long drive for me. Glasgow I can handle

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Just give me a shout if you need anything up my way.. 270-834-6007
 
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My Son and I do a Mosque the Moneys good, He was down stairs during prayer time and 5 of dem rolled in walking towards him he's 16 he got a little nervous!

Thinking a little jihad was coming his way :shock: He was like DAD???? ALAKBAR.

The Iman bought us In and Out so we broke bread and fled. :arrow:

He worked all summer to earn money to go to Russia with his Mom in Oct. short term mission trip, and 9 others!
 

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rwcarpet said:
I've got calls from a local porn theatre..............I ain't cleaning there for any amount!
Thats not any difference than the guy here that posted about having to clean a lot of poop!!! shiteatinggrin However the thought of what goes on in there would probably be going through your head. And the fact that people that see your truck there with your name on the side will wonder whet you were doing there!! blowme
 

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I often have similar woes myself. Many big companies refuse to clean ex-convicts homes because they feel it would give them a bad reputation. It can be frustrating for me, but I have found many companies who are not so shallow and who do business for the sake of doing business - not to accentuate personal grudges or biases.
 

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It is a personal matter of conscience if one of Jehovah's Witnesses chooses to clean or not clean a certain establishment. Many choose not to support an organization whose beliefs they disagree with. For example, they may not clean that porno theater, an abortion clinic, a gambling establishment or a house of prostitution.

Many who are not JW's also make decisions like this based on their conscience and belief. I guess that just leaves more work for those who choose to do it.

BTW - I taught a CCT class for B&B employees about 8 or 9 years ago.
 

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I've only ever knocked back work twice for commercial places.

One was a Massage Parlour and I declined. The owner was a good client that I had done a lot of work for, I recommended someone else and she used them for the Parlour and I lost all her work. That's fine, I prefer not to go into such a place for any reason.

Second was a Islamic Mosque. I quoted the work and was prepared to do it, but they were insisting on bare feet. I declined on H&S grounds.

Sometimes jobs come up in places I don't like to associate with now that I have staff, I oven give my staff the option. They know I don't want to work there, but if they want to/don't mind then we'll do it.

Example, we have a large commercial investor as a good client. They are always sending us into their many properties to clean up after storms or do end of tenancy cleans etc. They sent us twice to a adult toy shop. My staff handled it.

Larry summed it up well. It comes down to personal beliefs or convictions, and it doesn't do any good condemning anyone else. Respect goes a long way, as John said, he doesn't agree with their beliefs and no doubtm they don't agree with some of his.

I'm not a JW, just a humble Christian and I try to quietly live my own life as I see best. I certainly don't try and force/preach my beliefs on others.

John
 

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Its against the law to not serve a customet because of religious beliefs and sexual orientation. Etc etc.. The church is now going to sue im out of it. Lol

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joeynbgky said:
Its against the law to not serve a customet because of religious beliefs and sexual orientation. Etc etc.. The church is now going to sue im out of it. Lol

Actually, in this case, I don't think any law was broken. The business didn't refuse service because they were discriminating. Their OWN beliefs prevented them from wanting to work for ANY other religious organization. That's not illegal.

Would it be illegal to refuse to work for a porn shop or abortion clinic?
 

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I can't think of any place I wouldn't clean for based on personal beliefs. Well definitely not for a criminal who needs his crime scene cleaned up.
 

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The law states about religious beliefs. Theres nothing written bout porn stores

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The trouble is that some people have more rights than others.

These are the protected classes. You can't refuse service based on race, national origin, sexual preference or disability for instance.

If it was a GAY pornshop

Or a BLACK abortion clinic.

Or a MUSLIM ex-con.

You could be forced to clean all three of these scenarios for your regular rates.


White up-standing guy that loves this country.

You can tell them to GO TO HELL all you want.
 
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joeynbgky said:
The law states about religious beliefs. Theres nothing written bout porn stores

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The law is targeted toward businesses of accommodation. (Hotels, restaurants, etc.) We are a service business. we are going out into peoples homes and businesses. We can refuse to go into any place that makes us uncomfortable.

There's lots of information about this out there. The government is very careful when it comes to peoples personal religious beliefs. That's why a church does not have to perform a marriage service for a gay couple if that goes against their teachings.

I'm afraid in this case a lawsuit would be a big waste of time and money.
 

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Can't believe people turn down so many jobs in todays economy. I wish my bank account was so big I could refuse the work. We do all kinds: all church faiths, gay bars, strip clubs, vet clinics and even have 2 regular res. customers (Muslim families) who ask that we take our shoes off EVERY time we enter the home. Hey, as long as they want to pay what we ask for the job, I'm good with it. (As long as it's nothing illegal.) I have turned down a few jobs where the people call in and get crazy about pricing. They want to tell you how much they will pay. This has been the case with a couple of Indian owned motels. (We quoted $12 each to do 100 rooms all at the same time. They said they "would give us" $6 per room because the previous cleaner charged them that. I nicely told them they needed to call up those guys, who in fact worked all day labor latinos and only rinsed the carpet.)
 

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AshleyMckendree said:
So, Stockwell and I are the only J-Witts here ?
no! :mrgreen:

i refer 1 or 2 of them every year to JB 8)
 

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