Clear Gas option...
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steve_64
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No ethanol. Just like it says.
Ethanol eats rubber hoses and other rubber parts. Lawnmowers and other smaller engines use rubber fuel lines.
Ethanol also causes backfires in some small engines during shut down.
Ethanol eats rubber hoses and other rubber parts. Lawnmowers and other smaller engines use rubber fuel lines.
Ethanol also causes backfires in some small engines during shut down.
Dolly Llama
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any gas gurus here?
I was once told premium (91 and above octane) was ethanol free
Haven't a clue if correct
Might get slightly better mileage with ethanol free gas ??
I know E-85 gas (15% ethanol) gets less MPG compared to 10% (what most reg unleaded is here)
The lower cost of E-85 doesn't pan out to be a savings
..L.T.A.
I was once told premium (91 and above octane) was ethanol free
Haven't a clue if correct
Might get slightly better mileage with ethanol free gas ??
I know E-85 gas (15% ethanol) gets less MPG compared to 10% (what most reg unleaded is here)
The lower cost of E-85 doesn't pan out to be a savings
..L.T.A.
clean image
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Also called marine fuel. I use for all my small engines.
Ethanol mix has less energy and reduces horse power
Ethanol mix has less energy and reduces horse power
steve_64
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It has ethanol.
Ethanol burns cleaner less pollution. It's the only positive I know of.
Mike Rawn
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In Canada, Shell v_power has the greatest detergency, and is ethanol free. It is amazing. Now, who is running premium lubricants tip to tail, and flushes brake lines every 2 years?
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
The higher the octane the cooler a fuel runs and if you don't have the horsepower requirements needed such as higher compression in cylinders its a waste of extra octane.
The old higher octanes above 105 octane such as 110 or 112 octane also had lead in them to help coat the cylinders and help keep them cooled.
In jet ski racing octane above 105 (which is unleaded) was banned and had all of us scrambling to reduce compression and timing and try to keep the Motors together....
When snowmobile racing even the octane fuels we could not get the motors fired up in the cold because higher octane has lower flash point. We would have to use ether sprays to spray in the carburetors to get them to initially fire up
The old higher octanes above 105 octane such as 110 or 112 octane also had lead in them to help coat the cylinders and help keep them cooled.
In jet ski racing octane above 105 (which is unleaded) was banned and had all of us scrambling to reduce compression and timing and try to keep the Motors together....
When snowmobile racing even the octane fuels we could not get the motors fired up in the cold because higher octane has lower flash point. We would have to use ether sprays to spray in the carburetors to get them to initially fire up
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
E85 is almost all ethanol up to 83 percent ethanol.
From what I understand only 2 states dont have ethanol in the higher octane gas
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
And I would pay for the clear ethanol free everyday/
Today's engines are made to take ethanol (all stainless steel fuel lines, no rubber), and if you know for certain that the gas in your gas tank, and injectors will burn out in less than a week, than ethanol should be ok.
But if you have access to that clear gas, why not spend a little more for security?
But if you have access to that clear gas, why not spend a little more for security?
Mikey P
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Mikey P
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Mikey P
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I was hooked up to a kitchen sink, I had the check to see if someone turned the hot water on.
Interesting....
Interesting....
Mikey P
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good point...
and it was locked.
and it was locked.
Papa John
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I also noticed that I got about 10% less mileage with Ethanol tainted fuel.
If the fuel contains 10-15% ethanol and the performance is nearly equally lower to the amount of ethanol, then aren't we just wasting money to support the corn growing mafia?
I stopped using bio diesel because the process to make it releases alot of methane gas into the environment. Natural Gas also does the same at the pump when the tech has to relieve the pressure in the line. The government should require gas stations to invent a way of capturing that gas. They don't do it because of profits; the customer has already paid for that gas and they would have to invest money to solve the problem.
If the fuel contains 10-15% ethanol and the performance is nearly equally lower to the amount of ethanol, then aren't we just wasting money to support the corn growing mafia?
I stopped using bio diesel because the process to make it releases alot of methane gas into the environment. Natural Gas also does the same at the pump when the tech has to relieve the pressure in the line. The government should require gas stations to invent a way of capturing that gas. They don't do it because of profits; the customer has already paid for that gas and they would have to invest money to solve the problem.
Bob Pruitt
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Boat fuel.
steve_64
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Why does it cost more to not add something to the mix?
dealtimeman
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EPA
Lee Stockwell
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I had a very knowledgeable farmer explain that the bulk of the "bio fuel" industry had little positive net effect. Much fuel is burned growing, harvesting, and transporting the product. It drives up food costs and the programs would collapse without government subsidies.
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Yes to all of that, just like epa worrying about car pollution but sending hundreds of satélites up in orbit every year punching holes in our atmospheres ozone layer is no problem.
Mikey P
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I'm headed to Scruz right now..
Wish I had some available near by..
Wish I had some available near by..
Mikey P
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Hey lookie what I just found at our Walmart gas station they just started carrying it... say they're selling a lot of it
I'm filling up my Ram and headed to Santa Cruz on it.. I'll fill up and watch my mileage. normally I get 22
I'm filling up my Ram and headed to Santa Cruz on it.. I'll fill up and watch my mileage. normally I get 22
I swear that's a scam that was planned wayyy back in the 90's. Back in the 90's, gas was sold for under $1. They decided to put ethanol in it, and planned to sell it without it for a ridiculously higher price 20 years later, when it isn't any more cost to make it. The same goes with diesel. Crooks
ruff
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The EPA is not the cause Michael. Most environmental conscious organizations (from left to right) a long time ago made it clear that Ethanol does not help the environment at all. It's the corn lobby. See under Citizen United (Scalia and all- Supreme Court) that declared corporations to have the same rights as individuals and allowed unlimited money into politics.
Mikey P
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21.5.
Lee Stockwell
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Hard to go on one tankful.
Dennis Bruders
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Echoing many of the comments made above ethanol free fuels do have some significant advantages over fuel with ethanol added. These advantages include:
Better fuel consumption; many sites refer to studies showing mileage is reduced by 3% with ethanol added fuel as well as reduced horse power.
Non Ethanol added fuels contain more energy thus Mikey's observation of cleaning temperatures being hotter with pure gas/free fuel has merit.
Pure/free fuel provides better lubricity thus reduces wear on engine components. And as noted earlier ethanol will cause degradation of rubber materials.
Personally I run ethanol free fuel in my mowers, generators, chainsaws, weed eaters and ATV as they run better and since these tools and toys can sit for extended periods the "corn" fuel turns to a gummy mess in 30 days and results me having to work on carburetors. Since I switched to ethanol free fuel I have zero issues.
Better fuel consumption; many sites refer to studies showing mileage is reduced by 3% with ethanol added fuel as well as reduced horse power.
Non Ethanol added fuels contain more energy thus Mikey's observation of cleaning temperatures being hotter with pure gas/free fuel has merit.
Pure/free fuel provides better lubricity thus reduces wear on engine components. And as noted earlier ethanol will cause degradation of rubber materials.
Personally I run ethanol free fuel in my mowers, generators, chainsaws, weed eaters and ATV as they run better and since these tools and toys can sit for extended periods the "corn" fuel turns to a gummy mess in 30 days and results me having to work on carburetors. Since I switched to ethanol free fuel I have zero issues.
