Cleanworks
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I don't get corn rows with my crb. Maybe you're using it wrong.
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Mikey P
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RVs can cause soil streaks and if a flood jets gets a pin stream you'll destroy the pile.
and over wet the pad if you is dumb
hogjowl
Idiot™
Not true. It really shows up on thick smart strand carpet.This guy only cleans section8 flat poly carpet
You idiot
hogjowl
Idiot™
You’re prejudiced
GooB
Mikey P
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alexcarpets
Member
Thanks for sharing... got a number of questions as a newb:
i.) What is a renovator?
ii.) What is hwe?
iii.) What is Cimex
iv.) I would assume the only difference between the 10" and 15" is the smaller one lets you get into tighter places? Like there's no functional difference correct?
v.) Can you please link the product you have so I can take a look?
Thanks,
alexcarpets
Member
By the sounds of what you, and others, have shared, the CRB is the clear cut winner for what will be used in most homes. I will be sending you a PM now to further discuss.
Kenny Hayes
Member
Sorry, I can’t keep up with who’s who here. 10” crb is pretty much all you need for residential hot water extraction for agitation. Renovators are attachments that snap on that catches debris such as hair and lent. You can also use the crb for low moisture cleaning in commercial applications. Don’t worry about about a Cimex, only Janitors use em
How’s that
How’s thatalexcarpets
Member
Hello,
I've put together a list of items I'll be purchasing and wanted to make sure these look okay. I have linked all products, and welcome feedback!
I've put together a list of items I'll be purchasing and wanted to make sure these look okay. I have linked all products, and welcome feedback!
- Vacuum (For carpets... Not sure if this can be used for tile as well?)
- Pre-Sprayer (x2 - 1 for Carpet and 1 for Tile)
- PMF Swivel Head Stair Tool
- Tile & Grout Brush
- Glass & Tile Scraper
- Microfiber Mop Kit
- Unger Dual Ended Pole
- Grout Brush
- Unger Foam Squeegee
- Disposable Microfiber Mop Kit and Refills
- Spray bottles - 6 pack (For Stain Remober, Odor Remover, etc...)
- Carpet Rake
Spend a little more money, and get at a minimum an electric sprayer for treating the carpet. In my early years working as an employee, I used a pump up sprayer and it was one of the tools that made me hate this work
The PMF swivel stair tool will give you frustration as well. Save a few dollars and get a non swivel head westpak version. I know the popular guys on here love it, but I hated it because it swiveled too much out of control when I was trying to use it
And you want the black brush version of the carpet rake. The one you posted is too stiff and does a bad job at "grooming" the carpet properly.
The PMF swivel stair tool will give you frustration as well. Save a few dollars and get a non swivel head westpak version. I know the popular guys on here love it, but I hated it because it swiveled too much out of control when I was trying to use it
And you want the black brush version of the carpet rake. The one you posted is too stiff and does a bad job at "grooming" the carpet properly.
alexcarpets
Member
Matt - Thank you so much for taking a look at the items. A few points:
i.) Noted, and thank you for the heads up! I'll add the Hydro-Force, and maybe keep a pump up as a back up.
ii.) There are 2 version of the Westpak 6" wide (24" wide) and 10" wide (40" long), which do you recommend?
iii.) May be a dumb question, but can I not just rotate the whole wand if I go with the Westpak (or similar)? Or, will it be a hassle and cause issues, such as pressure hose binding?
iv.) Great catch on the carpet rake, and thank you for the heads up! Can you please link the brush you recommend? I don't want to find out I got the wrong one on the job site. LOL
Edit: v.) Thoughts on the linked vacuum, please?
Thanks again!!
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If you can find a 40” long in this shape, you’ll like it. It’s my favorite length and shape out of all of them. I used them all and this one cleans the risers great too. Yes you can rotate it without pinching hoses.
I’ve owned every shape and length stair tool and this one is the most user friendly and your back isn’t wore out after using it.
It’s not the “s” shaped wand and that straight tube going to the 10” head is what makes is better to clean the risers, but you still need the curve at the handle to make the cleaning enjoyable for your back so you can stand up straight
here's the carpet groomer I mentioned
Grandi Groom Carpet Brush
The Grandi Groom Carpet Brush features a single row of nylon fibers that have been designed specifically to give maximum penetration on commercial-grade level and multi-loop carpets.
www.jondon.com
Mr Brightside
Member
Well looks like you're going to get a bunch of different opinions
a rotovac or rx20 is great at cleaning and if you have and use one at every job quality will never be an issue but the drawbacks can be that they are slow and heavy and most guys don't want to use them. I would always follow with a wand after to help pull out more moisture and groom.
the same can be said about the crb I would bet a lot of guys have them and don't use them they sit in their truck and all they do is prespray and wand as fast as they can to get to the next job
Crb price is overkill but like many have said they are good at a lot of things I think for most situations prespray, crb and wand will do a great job I like the 15 inch crb the best the 10 is too small for me.
a rotovac or rx20 is great at cleaning and if you have and use one at every job quality will never be an issue but the drawbacks can be that they are slow and heavy and most guys don't want to use them. I would always follow with a wand after to help pull out more moisture and groom.
the same can be said about the crb I would bet a lot of guys have them and don't use them they sit in their truck and all they do is prespray and wand as fast as they can to get to the next job
Crb price is overkill but like many have said they are good at a lot of things I think for most situations prespray, crb and wand will do a great job I like the 15 inch crb the best the 10 is too small for me.
alexcarpets
Member
Agreed, 10 is too small for me too. I’m looking for a 15” crb that is reliable. Any recommendations?
Mr Brightside
Member
hit up mikey and buy whatever he sells
Mikey P
Administrator
Reminder..
alexcarpets
Member
Mikey, I’ll be happy to do business with you. Can you please let me know which 15 CRB from your site you recommend? Looking for something that can do both carpet and tile.
I also watched the stair tool video and was hoping to get the link for the 40” tool with dual jets and glide.
Thanks!!
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Mikey P
Administrator
I get you a definitive list, and invoice if you'd like, when I return home this afternoon
Mikey P
Administrator
Every new cleaner should have a 175 floor machine..
Scrubbing greasy carpet ( CRBs don't do much to grease, especially on commercial glue down
Scrubbing hard surface
Stripping coatings
Encap/ shampooing with a removable shampoo tank
Stone resurfacing when a weighted driver
Try and find one used locally or online
New they run around a $1000...
1.5 horse
1" head
90#-105# range
CRBs and OPs are lighter, and easier to use and train, but far costlier and not as versatile
I have all three, and carry the 10" and a OP all the time.
The 10" is the best choice for residential work, by far imo.
Works on stair cases, around furniture, can be carried in one hand and takes up less room in your vehicle, you'll want the stock blue, and softer white brushes
Keep in mind, the opinions I express are of a collective, and not just mine...
alexcarpets
Member
Great info! Thank you so much!! What is an OP?
Living The Dream
Member
I'm curious as to why you like the 10" better than 15". Is it only because of stairs? I've personally only used the 15", but my thinking was it would be faster than the 10" and is pretty easy to carry. Should I be looking at 10" for my next CRB?
Mikey P
Administrator
Keep in mind, I've used them all for extended periods
10, 15, 17 & 20..
The ten is fun and easy, and can get to where the others can't
Mikey P
Administrator
Oscillating Pad machine
Trinity Products | VLM Carpet Cleaning Equipment - GreenGlides
Low Moisture Carpet Cleaning Equipment for professional carpet cleaners. 3 different VLM machines to choose from, Gladpads and Tops Spot from Trinity Op Systems.
greenglides.com
alexcarpets
Member
For the hydro force sprayers, is there any that allow you to go easily from 8:1 to 4:1? What’s industry standard for not having to mix yourself? 4:1?
Mikey P
Administrator
Curious..
If there was a vocational school that used Zoom, a video library, and in person training and skill assessment that taught how to clean every type of floor and furnishing as well as business accumen, and helped you when apprentice programs and financing the 2 year education, what would you be willing to invest?
Ongoing education, community support, advanced skills training and discounts on equipment included..
If there was a vocational school that used Zoom, a video library, and in person training and skill assessment that taught how to clean every type of floor and furnishing as well as business accumen, and helped you when apprentice programs and financing the 2 year education, what would you be willing to invest?
Ongoing education, community support, advanced skills training and discounts on equipment included..
Mikey P
Administrator
Kenny Hayes
Member
Tell him a 10” crb is not too small if he’s doing residential. If he’s doing a lot of wide open commercial areas like me, then 17 is the ticket. Oh, tell him the 10 is awesome around chairs and furniture in commercial as well too
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Mikey P
Administrator
If it's that large an area, I'm using a 17" brush or fiber pad under my 175 or OP to scrub in my pre-sprayTell him a 10” crb is not too small if he’s doing residential. If he’s doing a lot lot of wide open commercial areas like me, then 15 is the ticket. Oh, tell him the 10 is awesome around chairs and furniture in commercial as well too
17” 
The 17 just 
