Destaticized???
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Dolly Llama
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I figure they mean anti static treatment
..L.T.A.
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Desk Jockey
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Anti-stats don't usually last for very long, and they can sometimes cause re-soiling. They are cheap and a easy to apply. Check with your local janitorial supplier they usually have several. (adding moisture might be an easier solution)
Anti-flame in many states must applied by a licensed applicator. Check with an Unsmoke distributor, they manufactured a product called Unflame.
Anti-flame in many states must applied by a licensed applicator. Check with an Unsmoke distributor, they manufactured a product called Unflame.
Some owners that use flamable fluids that could become vaporized would want their carpets treated against static electric spark. Think of the upside...static guards are cheap, they wear off quick, and they cause resoiling, a perfect high income producing job because of high maintenance. Sub the fire retardant out to someone else then just mark up the service price. You might want to promote the anti static service just for the high interim crap associated with specialized up keep.
J Scott W
Member
Anti- Static is a type of salt. It is hygroscopic and attracts moisture. That is how it reduces static electricity. That is also why it can resoil.
Depending on traffic level, anti-static will remain in a commercial carpet for 3 to 4 months. However, most locations only have issues with static 3 or 4 months of the year when weather is dryer. An annual treatment at the beginning of the winter may be all that is required.
If the anti-static is needed for sensitive electronic components, you should re-apply quarterly.
Several places require flame retardant for drapes and/or upholstery after cleaning. New York requires wool carpet as a flame control method. I checked a few cities and states and did not find any that required flame retardant be applied to carpet.
If you do need flame retardant, Bob Astone also has this product at Knapp Products in Fresno. 1 877 278-6630.
Scott Warrington
Depending on traffic level, anti-static will remain in a commercial carpet for 3 to 4 months. However, most locations only have issues with static 3 or 4 months of the year when weather is dryer. An annual treatment at the beginning of the winter may be all that is required.
If the anti-static is needed for sensitive electronic components, you should re-apply quarterly.
Several places require flame retardant for drapes and/or upholstery after cleaning. New York requires wool carpet as a flame control method. I checked a few cities and states and did not find any that required flame retardant be applied to carpet.
If you do need flame retardant, Bob Astone also has this product at Knapp Products in Fresno. 1 877 278-6630.
Scott Warrington
The Great Oz
Member
If the customer wanted special anti-static or flame proof properties, they should have specified CARPET that had them, not cleaning services.
"...if and as required by law" is a meaningless phrase, with the exception that it makes you liable for doing the research to find out whether it is required, and adding you to the list of those liable "if and as" something goes wrong somewhere, so they'll have another company to add to the lawsuit.
Get a clarification from the building manager regarding both statements. There may be no law above what all carpet has to meet regarding the flammability of the carpet, and there may be no tenant that requires an extra anti-static application. I wouldn't agree to take on ANY liabilities beyond your normal services, and would draw a line through any questionable wording before signing any contracts.
"...if and as required by law" is a meaningless phrase, with the exception that it makes you liable for doing the research to find out whether it is required, and adding you to the list of those liable "if and as" something goes wrong somewhere, so they'll have another company to add to the lawsuit.
Get a clarification from the building manager regarding both statements. There may be no law above what all carpet has to meet regarding the flammability of the carpet, and there may be no tenant that requires an extra anti-static application. I wouldn't agree to take on ANY liabilities beyond your normal services, and would draw a line through any questionable wording before signing any contracts.
Excellent Info guys...thanks.
Oz, I am working on that right now. I actually sent all this to my lawyer and have his girls researching...And I am having him review the contract and our bid submission package.
Building manager is helpful on this so far.
I am familiar with flame retardants for drapes, etc...never heard of it for carpet. And in Charleston, SC I have not ever heard of a static problem with carpet...but who knows, something new everyday I guess.
It is really an insane bid package. (Which we are not SUPPOSED to print to save the world.)
Thanks again
WISE
Oz, I am working on that right now. I actually sent all this to my lawyer and have his girls researching...And I am having him review the contract and our bid submission package.
Building manager is helpful on this so far.
I am familiar with flame retardants for drapes, etc...never heard of it for carpet. And in Charleston, SC I have not ever heard of a static problem with carpet...but who knows, something new everyday I guess.
It is really an insane bid package. (Which we are not SUPPOSED to print to save the world.)
Thanks again
WISE
Larry Cobb
Member
Wise;
There are new Anti-Stats that are not cationic, and do not cause resoiling.
Fire retardants are generally determined by the local fire marshall.
Sometimes they accept NFPA standards, which are the most widely specified.
Some of them do their own informal test procedures.
Larry
There are new Anti-Stats that are not cationic, and do not cause resoiling.
Fire retardants are generally determined by the local fire marshall.
Sometimes they accept NFPA standards, which are the most widely specified.
Some of them do their own informal test procedures.
Larry
