DI/RO water...is there a better rinse to clean with?
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FredC
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thoughts? The rest of your system, after the RO/DI, is making up the "difference" in "water composition"..........
Water "wants" certain things...chemistry and shit...........in Vawter terms...it has a propensity
and keeping with the BAWBian nature of my post I will only entertain corrections by Forsythe
Water "wants" certain things...chemistry and shit...........in Vawter terms...it has a propensity
and keeping with the BAWBian nature of my post I will only entertain corrections by Forsythe
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Im either going to get a new Kinetico on my next truck or go with a R/Di system
There are some hassles involved with it..waster water , 30% goes to the street/lawn and the need for a 110 outlet while the pump is working But im hoping what Im hearing is true in that chemical cost goes down very dramatically and carpets are left beyond clean and softier..
There are some hassles involved with it..waster water , 30% goes to the street/lawn and the need for a 110 outlet while the pump is working But im hoping what Im hearing is true in that chemical cost goes down very dramatically and carpets are left beyond clean and softier..
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worried about chem cost? Not the time....... Really? Not the baller' I thought.................Lockhart wins....................
my opinion? Keep pumping the salt water...........ESPECIALLY on your new twin Judson truck........or you might f' up your new bentleys
my opinion? Keep pumping the salt water...........ESPECIALLY on your new twin Judson truck........or you might f' up your new bentleys
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hell yeah Lockheart wins.
no teet suckling brats or MILS, paid more for my chicken coop than he did his 10 acre ranch, his middle name is Craig.
no teet suckling brats or MILS, paid more for my chicken coop than he did his 10 acre ranch, his middle name is Craig.
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Russ T.
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I wish I knew more a out this "empowered water" as ZeroRez calls it. They are advertising on the radio more than I've heard anybody advertise. I have to field questions about it in almost every resi customers home. I guess I'm the one standing in their home and not them so we must be doing something right. ZeroRez is very vague about this water on their website and they make a big deal about the wand they use on there too. The wand they use is the Wonder Wand from PowrFlite so maybe this empowered water is mostly hype too? Don't know about you guys but my cost for chems is a minimal expense when I consider everything else that goes into running this biz.
Russ Terhaar
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http://eau-x.com/eau_technology/page5.html
The active ingredient in Primacide B is Sodium Hydroxide, which is Generally Regarded As Safe
just tell your customer to google the bolded part...........problem solved (even though it is "safe")
...and add that they have to use the same products you use when encountering a stain their caustic water doesn't remove
The active ingredient in Primacide B is Sodium Hydroxide, which is Generally Regarded As Safe
just tell your customer to google the bolded part...........problem solved (even though it is "safe")
...and add that they have to use the same products you use when encountering a stain their caustic water doesn't remove
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Russ T.
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Thanks Fred. You do mean tell them to google "sodium hydroxide" right. I clicked the link and I've been to that page before. That page sounds all positive about this fairy dust called "empowered water". Thanks for the help!
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Russ T.
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Wow, a quick search on Sodium Hydroxide WAS helpful! Look out Zero Rez ;-)
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lol...I wouldn't give them any more info than they needed to hang themselves on MY rope...........
cause the fact is zerorez "empowered water" isn't really harmful...............despite the active ingredient
but the other facts are, from what I've seen, they are using the same shit you are to ACTUALLY clean carpets
cause the fact is zerorez "empowered water" isn't really harmful...............despite the active ingredient
but the other facts are, from what I've seen, they are using the same shit you are to ACTUALLY clean carpets
GeneMiller
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Both process remove minerals from your water. Di will get it Down to 5 part per million and ro 10 ppm. Both will attack brass. Your detergents don't have to fight the water so it cleans better. Water softness just exchange salt for mineral leaving the carpet full of salt.
water softeners really are the best for our industry. The salt won't cause any problems.
gene
water softeners really are the best for our industry. The salt won't cause any problems.
gene
davegillfishing
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been using it for 7 years..love it and market it heavily..the water consumes everything and truly helps with the reoccurring spot issue and the residue issues..
Mikey P
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how are you producing it Dave?
No fresh tank on the Judson, is there?
No fresh tank on the Judson, is there?
Mikey P
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I was told this today..
Gill?
Lance?
Gill?
Lance?
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davegillfishing
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I have a 300 gallon per day system that pumps into a 309 gallon storage tank (plastic) and we use a transfer pump to transfer the water from tank to trucks.
Butler holds 200 gallons and Judson holds 100 gallons
Butler holds 200 gallons and Judson holds 100 gallons
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So what happens after the 100 gallons is used up?
Does that truck return to the shop or the tech knows to triple his chem usage, turn on the rinse aid and tell the last job or jobs that they are getting hosed?
The system I am interested in produces the empowered water right there on the truck as the Fresh Tank is filled.
Does that truck return to the shop or the tech knows to triple his chem usage, turn on the rinse aid and tell the last job or jobs that they are getting hosed?
The system I am interested in produces the empowered water right there on the truck as the Fresh Tank is filled.
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Lance Golden
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1st I have ever heard of that... Are you sure they weren't referring to the "Other Empowered" water...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purified_water
I believe it to be better to show facts...
Maybe I will start telling my clients, It provides "Anti-static"... Along with all the other positive benefits...
Lance Golden
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Easy there skippy... I wasn't just sitting here waiting for his question...
Russ T.
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Sorry about that man. I forget not everybody is notified on their phone when a new subscribed post comes in. I'm genuinely interested in this as I said because ZeroRez is creating the biggest buzz around here because of the water they are using. I seriously appreciate the info and apologize for being chippy...
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Lance Golden
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Another good source to ask the benefits of using RO/DI is window cleaner, that uses it... For you Russ... I know a guy in Fairfield, and another near Iowa city...
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Lance..
Is DI considered "charged"?
Is DI considered "charged"?
Lance Golden
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I have not honestly "heard" that term used....
Actually I was told the opposite... Charge removed.... (no ion..)
Are we tawkin bout cleaning some plasdic fiber on the flo................plasdic?...........tawkin bout plasdic?...............plasdic?.................plasdic on da flo?
I's shore you is tawkin bout cleaning some plasdic.......eMpOwERD WaDDEr?..............fo ...........Plasdic?
HALe.........Nose!
Wat you kats smokin?
HeeeEEEee! HeeEeeeee!
I's shore you is tawkin bout cleaning some plasdic.......eMpOwERD WaDDEr?..............fo ...........Plasdic?
HALe.........Nose!
Wat you kats smokin?
HeeeEEEee! HeeEeeeee!
rwcarpet
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I'm with Gene here......salt can do no harm. I'm dumping the old Kinetico (mainly because there is no economical way to buy a new one except through their "extorsionest" sales staff) They have exclusive rights to their areas. There is no online site to buy Kinetico. All I wanted was to do is purchase a new unit from their shop, install it myself, never have to bother them. No....they turn every sale into a high pressure sales blitz. F 'em. I'm going with a Culligan exchange tank program. DI or RO water great for windows and washing cars.
davegillfishing
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Mike the truck that carries can do 3 small jobs or 2 med and 1 large. He just plans his day and swings by the house to dump and refill. Luckily most of our work isn't far from home base at all. Works out pretty easy but there have been a few times when we have had to top off somewhere.
GeneMiller
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You can buy a di tank that will give you 10'000 gals before recharge. It goes for around 1k. It doesn't waste water like ro does. You can buy the beads and recharge it yourself. It would be great if you clean a lot of tile but unnecessary for carpet. It's a single tank and would be easy to store on board.
gene
gene
