Did Evan know?

[Mikey P]

What is the group's consensus here?

 

[Shorty]

I do believe that he either gave them the tools to do their own thing on ICS, OR, he deleted what they asked him to delete.

If they hacked into the system, he would be aware of it immediately and would find himself in an awkward position of what to do, or not to do.

IF they hacked in, you should imagine some type of action, including banning Dad & Bob the Builder form ICS.

I really don't give a rat's one way or another, the point is, they appear to have "special priviledges" that no one else can have.

Something sure smells fishy down at the market place, and it ain't fish.

It is indeed a sad day for the integrity of a fine forum whose standards seem to have slipped faster than a croc down a mud slide.

I do feel sorry for Evan for having this happen to ICS in Dad & Bob the builders quest for forum domination through lies and deceit.

& that's all I have to say on this matter, apart from...........

Ooroo,

:roll:



PS ::: Good as they may think they are, they still aren't a scratch on Mark & Andrechelle as far as web sites etc; go.

And never will be.

 

[steve frasier]

I tried to click on ICS and my antivirus program kicked me off saying my computer was under attack

anybody know someone @ the FBI I can call

 

[Shorty]

Steve, please remove your avatar.



It scares me every time I see it.




It reminds me of the freaky tre in the Haunted Forest where all the weirdo's gather.



Guess I'm still young at heart and aint never gonna grow up.



Ooroo,

:shock:

 

[joey895]

I think I know how you can edit posts after there have been replies. I'm off to work but I'll give it a shot later and let you guys know if it works. If it does I'll give you the low down.

 

[Jeremy]

Seeing as ICS is "Down fo Maintenance" right now, it think they hacked it...

 

[Jimmy L]

ODIN what an honest evaluation!

You too noticed how he "WHORES" all the parasitic suppliers who sit on his shoulders and whisper in his ear?

 

[WISE]

I had a little fun in my boredom the other day...

I noticed Rob forgot to put his signature T ruckmountforums. at the end of his post...

I posted that he was slipping and missed an opportunity.

That post was gone shortly after. I think I only posted once since then, but my signature was
not T ruckmountforums. That one stayed, for now.

The 8th grade drama is entertaining on some level I guess.

WISE

 

[Desk Jockey]

I noticed it last week when Bill S. posted a thank you to Jon Don and Mikeysboard. Rob made some statements, I commented on them and when I looked back he had changed them.

I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, what with us being able to change our posts here. It was just frustrating in that he knew how and I didn't.

 

[Jim Martin]

that was the biggest train wreck I have ever seen.....like a bunch of old bitches in a beauty shop

shame how some grown men cant seem to let go of there preschool play ground drama.............

 

[Mr Carpet]

It's amazing all the blatant advertising that Big Rob and The little Weasel get away with on ICS.

In the last few weeks they have listed an E-bay page to a product they are selling. TMF t-shirts and wand decals. Posts of what do you think of this website and by the way I'm selling websites. Post of TMF is down (who cares) Numerous post started by them just to draw attention to TMF or a reason to list their web address.

Anyone else gets spanked by Evan Just by listing their web address at the end of posts.

The irregularity of the way the rules are enforced are frustrating posters and and making Evan lose his slipping integrity.

Dave Yoakum-

 

[harryhides]

Give the Allens enough rope and they will hang themselves.
Evan will avoid making a decision for as long as he possibly can.
A forum lives or dies by being interesting and/or useful to the professional carpet cleaners as a collective.
Evan is not tuned into to that collective, does not understand it and so will inevitably make the wrong decision.

The beat goes on.....

 

[Chris Muetterties]

Sure Evan let them edit post's !!

They pay for banner ads so the can pull people away from ICS over to TMF's

Evan's hatred for MB and Mike is blinding him to the fact that it is his BB that is losing in the BB wars not MB.

Oh well his loss, I would think as THIN as ICS is getting he would be concerned.

 

[Mikey P]

And the ICS bulletin board was not hacked!!!

I was at the Restoration Industry Association Convention & Trade Show yesterday and had no idea any of this was happening and all the accusations, innuendo and outright attacks was going on.

We have never given moderator or unusual post editing privileges to anyone or any company.

The intent of the edit function is for the immediate change/edit of a post you have made before others have had an opportunity to reply. Once they reply, this function does not allow you to edit your post. I now know how this happened and it was not a case of hacking. It will not happen again or be tolerated!!!

The ICS bulletin board exists to provide a forum for professionals to ask and answer questions to help with each others businesses. It is not intended to be a place for fun and frugality, jokes, politics, religion and certainly not personal attacks. That is not to say that we don’t allow other than strictly business posts, clearly we do, but it is not the intended purpose and there are many other outlets and forums to express whatever is on your mind even within the industry.

Respect is a critical component of this or any other professional forum. Please post respectfully and professionally or not at all.

Respectfully,

Evan Kessler, Publisher,
ICS Cleaning Specialist magazine

So if the board did not get hacked and he didn't give them privileges, how did it happen?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Evan's hatred for MB and Mike is blinding him to the fact that it is his BB that is losing in the BB wars not MB.

Chris, do you really think the boards are at war? Both seem to be active, healthy forums. It seems to me there is far more drama directed from here to there than vice versa.

In regards to the editing, ICS's sister board FCI was having trouble with a hacker last year, not sure if they got it sorted out. The hacker could put up a post under the guise of the last poster in a thread and would usually talk trash. It caused the members a lot of grief.

 

[Chris Muetterties]

Evan's hatred for MB and Mike is blinding him to the fact that it is his BB that is losing in the BB wars not MB.

Chris, do you really think the boards are at war? Both seem to be active, healthy forums. It seems to me there is far more drama directed from here to there than vice versa.

In regards to the editing, ICS's sister board FCI was having trouble with a hacker last year, not sure if they got it sorted out. The hacker could put up a post under the guise of the last poster in a thread and would usually talk trash. It caused the members a lot of grief.

Jim,

Last year Evan told anyone who he considered to be a MBer that they would be banned from ICS if we posting MB stuff on ICS while the whole time TMF has unlimited posting and editing abilities.

 

[XTREME1]

I now know how this happened and it was not a case of hacking. It will not happen again or be tolerated!!!

I know how this happened and hoped no one else would notice.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Jim,

Last year Evan told anyone who he considered to be a MBer that they would be banned from ICS if we posting MB stuff on ICS while the whole time ® has unlimited posting and editing abilities.

Wasn't aware of that

 

[Brian R]

WGAS?

And THIS thread doesn't get moved?

Give me a Break

 

[Dolly Llama]

I tried to click on ICS and my antivirus program kicked me off saying my computer was under attack

same/similar thing happened to me this morning.
I clicked on, the page said "doing maintenance" or something like that, and a Norton anti-virus box popped up saying it blocked a hi-risk malicious something or other originating from datalink (?) datasomething or other .com


..L.T.A.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Re: What's wrong with "frugality" ?
Posted By Todd Benne on 3/13/2009 at 2:26 PM

I think one of the things that plagues the board in particular is that too many folks are in bed together. Thus, it makes it difficult for Evan to take a strong stand in moderating the forum.

It seems that it is the opinion of the majority that if you buy a banner ad it excludes you from the rules. Far too often we see this. So, instead of Evan taking a stance against these folks, the same folks who are a revenue stream to him and ICS, some things are overlooked.

As we as cleaner discuss, once in a while it is good for business to fire a client. Perhaps Evan and ICS need to consider that occasionally. Perhaps rely on ethics and morals instead of cash and greed.

If Evan is not of strong enough character to do so, ICS and/or its parent company need to find a moderator who is. This would, I believe, cut out a lot of the crap that blatantly goes on here.

It is funny how you see Rob and Tre, along with their various alias, come on here and create havoc, yet none of that is tolerated on their own web site. They created a web site they constantly remind us is a huge benefit to the industry, so they should stay at 'home' then. Quit coming here.

Once the precedent is set to allow the rule breaking and frivolity that happens here, it can be hard to rein it in.

Wow!

Todd dropped a bomb on them!

 

[Desk Jockey]

Advertisers are spending less.

Topeka has an annual Jazz festival they've been putting on every summer for years.

One of the banks usually underwrites it, but they didn't have the funds this year.

The trust that puts it on said the acts wanted nonrefundable deposits and they couldn't take the risk with out the underwriting.

They postponed it until the economy gets better. It's just tight enough even the big guys are watching their pennies.

 

[harryhides]

Re: What's wrong with "frugality" ?
Posted By Todd Benne on 3/13/2009 at 2:26 PM

I think one of the things that plagues the board in particular is that too many folks are in bed together. Thus, it makes it difficult for Evan to take a strong stand in moderating the forum.

It seems that it is the opinion of the majority that if you buy a banner ad it excludes you from the rules. Far too often we see this. So, instead of Evan taking a stance against these folks, the same folks who are a revenue stream to him and ICS, some things are overlooked.

As we as cleaner discuss, once in a while it is good for business to fire a client. Perhaps Evan and ICS need to consider that occasionally. Perhaps rely on ethics and morals instead of cash and greed.

If Evan is not of strong enough character to do so, ICS and/or its parent company need to find a moderator who is. This would, I believe, cut out a lot of the crap that blatantly goes on here.

It is funny how you see Rob and Tre, along with their various alias, come on here and create havoc, yet none of that is tolerated on their own web site. They created a web site they constantly remind us is a huge benefit to the industry, so they should stay at 'home' then. Quit coming here.

Once the precedent is set to allow the rule breaking and frivolity that happens here, it can be hard to rein it in.

Wow!

Todd dropped a bomb on them!

Thank Gawd that vulgar young man isn't a Mikeyboarder because if he was the Allens would be all over him blathering on about the "hate board".

 

[Doug D]

maybe we should invite him to mikeysboard! Sounds like half the people in here!

 

[bob vawter]

i was thinking the same thing

 

[Mikey P]

It turns out the Allens figured out a way to edit there posts with out Evan knowing about it.

My apologies to Evan for insinuating that he did.


What I want to know is, how does a God before family, biz or friends thumper like Rob justify going into Evan's house and breaking his rules, lie and make his"good friend" look like a total ass after he went way out of his way to help them with their board?

I bet he sleeps through church.

 

[Guest]

What I want to know is, how does a God before family, biz or friends thumper like Rob justify going into Evan's house and breaking his rules, lie and make his"good friend" look like a total ass...?

I bet he sleeps through church.

That's gotta be it! :|

 

[John Olson]

Don't you know that if you can't go to Jail doing it then it is just buisness. And since it is Just buisness it's all good :roll:

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

I have a feeling that ICS will have to seriously trim their forum membership now that the "membership" sees that the Emperor has no clothes.

Threads are being deleted by the bushel as people discuss the matters. And by the way, it is a personal attack and/or and exercise in felonious frivolity to talk about it.

 

[joey895]

My wife told me how to edit posts over there, apparently it's nothing new and people have been using this little trick a long time on other forums that have strict editing rules, us carpet cleaners are just a little slow catching on I guess.