Does 40vol loose It's Potency Over Time?

[everfresh1]

Just wondering, Seems like it doesn't work as well after setting in the van for a couple months. Now I normally mix it with water to thin it out so it can be sprayed with a trigger sprayer.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Yes it does when it comes in contact with air.

 

[Able 1]

Just wondering, Seems like it doesn't work as well after setting in the van for a couple months. Now I normally mix it with water to thin it out so it can be sprayed with a trigger sprayer.

I buy 2 quarts a month... Heat is the biggest HP killer imo....

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Just like the milk in my fridge my HP isnt on my van long enough to go bad.

 

[everfresh1]

So you guys are saying even the undiluted, that I have in the van is no good? And you can't stock up and buy a lot at one time even if its kept in a cool place?

 

[renegade_cowboy]

So you guys are saying even the undiluted, that I have in the van is no good? And you can't stock up and buy a lot at one time even if its kept in a cool place?

40 volume is 12% and I can only image that percentage going down over time.

 

[Ryan]

Try using Sodium Precarbonate instead. Orange Force 1 is the cheapest way to buy it.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Try using Sodium Precarbonate instead. Orange Force 1 is the cheapest way to buy it.

Does it smell like oranges?

 

[Able 1]

So you guys are saying even the undiluted, that I have in the van is no good? And you can't stock up and buy a lot at one time even if its kept in a cool place?

Yeah, it will stay good in a cool place with no direct sunlight for a long time... I think Proschoice OSR is just powder peroxcide(?) which will be more stable if you don't use it much,and you can mix what you need...

 

[everfresh1]

So you guys are saying even the undiluted, that I have in the van is no good? And you can't stock up and buy a lot at one time even if its kept in a cool place?

Yeah, it will stay good in a cool place with no direct sunlight for a long time... I think Proschoice OSR is just powder peroxcide(?) which will be more stable if you don't use it much,and you can mix what you need...

I've got some Master blend Soap Free isn't that powdered Peroxcide? I don't like it as a rinse, but If it's Peroxcide I could use it as a spotter :?:

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Heat, light, and time are its enemies. Since I have a Sally's here I don't stock it much anymore. I keep what I need in a tiny foam cooler in the truck which seems to work fine.

 

[KevinD]

Just wondering, Seems like it doesn't work as well after setting in the van for a couple months. Now I normally mix it with water to thin it out so it can be sprayed with a trigger sprayer.

What kind of 40 volume are you using that needs thinning to be sprayed?
40 Volume Cream Developer?

 

[Shorty]

Just two other things from what I have read that could be mentioned.

If you have a larger amount, one quart, keep it in one of those dark collapsible photo chemical bottles.

As it is used, with the cap off, you push the bottle down to reduce air content, then screw the cap on.



In a sealed bottle, especially in the van where it gets hot, the peroxide will build up gas and force it's way out through the cap, sometimes even bursting a seal and leaking.



It does lose potency with heat, air, age and sunlight.

Sounds a bit like me I guess. shiteatinggrin



Fifty years ago, it used to be great for my hair, now, I ain't so sure. thathurts

Ooroo,

:roll:

 

[B&BGaryC]

How many ounces should I add to a hydroforce to boost a prespray?

I am using boost all now but it is such a pain to boost the pre-spray, end up adding so much water....

Can I carry the straight 40 volume and add it to the pre-spray or should I dilute it before bringing it?

 

[Dolly Llama]

I've got some Master blend Soap Free isn't that powdered Peroxcide? I don't like it as a rinse, but If it's Peroxcide I could use it as a spotter :?:

I don't think so, Jamie.
the main ingredient is Soap Free is a water conditioner

..L.T.A.

 

[Ryan]

Try using Sodium Precarbonate instead. Orange Force 1 is the cheapest way to buy it.

Does it smell like oranges?

A little bit. Not as strong as the other two though.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Ryan;

The 40 volume or 12% peroxide needs stabilizing ...

or the strength will be cut in half in a week.

We use two stabilizers in our Liquid Brightener.

For best stability, the straight percarbonate is the choice.

If it is pure (like our Powder Brightener) it will have no odor at all:
http://ccs5.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=1142

Thanks;

Larry

 

[everfresh1]

Just wondering, Seems like it doesn't work as well after setting in the van for a couple months. Now I normally mix it with water to thin it out so it can be sprayed with a trigger sprayer.

What kind of 40 volume are you using that needs thinning to be sprayed?
40 Volume Cream Developer?

Yep.... Why is that the wrong one?

 

[everfresh1]

Ryan;

The 40 volume or 12% peroxide needs stabilizing ...

or the strength will be cut in half in a week.

We use two stabilizers in our Liquid Brightener.

For best stability, the straight percarbonate is the choice.

If it is pure (like our Powder Brightener) it will have no odor at all:
http://ccs5.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=1142

Thanks;

Larry

How can you use that stuff on stain resistant carpet with a P.H. of 10.5?

 

[Larry Cobb]

How can you use that stuff on stain resistant carpet with a P.H. of 10.5?

Do you believe everything CRI tells you ???

Actually, a rinse will drop the pH to under 9.

Larry

 

[KevinD]

Just wondering, Seems like it doesn't work as well after setting in the van for a couple months. Now I normally mix it with water to thin it out so it can be sprayed with a trigger sprayer.

What kind of 40 volume are you using that needs thinning to be sprayed?
40 Volume Cream Developer?

Yep.... Why is that the wrong one?

Yes. Order some of Larry's liquid or powdered brightener.

 

[TimP]

How can you use that stuff on stain resistant carpet with a P.H. of 10.5?

When you need peroxide, or need a higher ph cleaner to clean the floor. Stain resistant warranties go out the window way before you put your "illegal" chemicals on the carpet.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Ryan;

The 40 volume or 12% peroxide needs stabilizing ...

or the strength will be cut in half in a week.

We use two stabilizers in our Liquid Brightener.

For best stability, the straight percarbonate is the choice.

If it is pure (like our Powder Brightener) it will have no odor at all:
http://ccs5.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=1142

Thanks;

Larry

Larry if i pick up a box of this stuff with you throw in the 2045? shiteatinggrin

 

[Larry Cobb]

Brent;

If you pick up the 2045 TM,

then I will throw in a case of Dynachem Powder Brightener.

Larry

P.S. Are you coming to LV ?

 

[everfresh1]

How can you use that stuff on stain resistant carpet with a P.H. of 10.5?

Do you believe everything CRI tells you ???

Actually, a rinse will drop the pH to under 9.

Larry

A rinse with what? I use a powdered emulsifier with a P.H of 9.5?

 

[Larry Cobb]

A rinse with what? I use a powdered emulsifier with a P.H of 9.5?

A water rinse will drop the pH to a "CRI approved" level.

Larry