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Actually no....he is not a friend of mine. I met him once.


and everybody here is familiar with partridge

BTW procarpet is closed....and some of those reviews aren't even for his company
 
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there are signs for cafeteria/discount cleaners at almost every intersection here.......................there must be some difference between them and the guy that turns it into a biz serving hundreds of homes per day and makes it work for over 20 years

then moves on to another successful biz...or three


might be worth learning
 
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I can see you are a friend of his so I'm sorry if my posts offend you. Guess Orange man is a shot at Partridge? I have read his book and many others. I wouldn't have recommended it if I hadn't read it. I don't know him or you for that matter but I have been in business...not just Carpet Cleaning for over 40 years so I guess my opinion is as valid as yours.
I have met him and believe he is the real deal.

Howard? He wouldn't get my recommendation either.
I guess its all in what you're looking for.
 

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http://www.yelp.com/not_recommended_reviews/pro-carpet-marietta?not_recommended_start=0
Current reviews...the ones not hidden aren't any different.
Good business man who knows how to make money? I know plenty of good business men and their goal is to solve a problem and by doing that they are rewarded. Yes you can make money by ripping people off and getting a hundred hack carpet cleaners with portable carpet cleaning machines in their car trunks, but this isn't a business model I care to learn about. All the honest guys out there doing good work and keeping their reputations are the people to learn from.

Very well put Bob. I'm in this business to make money, but it can be fair and equitable to both parties, not a constant sales pitch by underpaid and overworked contractors that only seem to care about gross margin and not the clients needs. In feel sorry for the slew of angry customers left in the path, I also feel sorry for the people that work there. Yeah, I want those sales lessons like I want a migraine.
 

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The bait and switch is cancer to any industry. People justify it as it's business. You are preying on people who don't know about what they are buying. It happens in HVAC, auto repair and car sales. People want someone they can trust. When you go get your hybrid repaired and they tell you the flex capacitor is bad, how do know what they are selling you for 3k. So I wonder how the guy that does thebait and switch in any business feels after his grandma on a fixed income bought a 4k rainbow vacuum financed for 6years at 25%.

We all want to make money. Honest money is the hardest money to make. We don't want to be viewed as loser high school drop outs that tell grandma that soap is an extra $10 a room. I wish Tom King would make a sales program. He knows how to ethically sale and it shows because he started with a Bane and now has multiple business's. This is what I do for a living and bait and switch gives my industry a bad name and gets us on the local news as thieves. Treat people how you want people to treat your family. Just my 2cents.
 

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I used to work in a boiler room doing telemarketing for a carpet cleaning company in Calgary. They brought in motivational speakers, sales trainers, etc. to boost our sales skills. Our phone room rocked with energy of all these high powered salepeople. You could not say no to us. I was the top salesman for 2 years before I decided I want to be a cleaner instead. That's when I found out what bait and switch was really about. We would go out with 5 or 6 jobs for $39.95 each and be expected to come back with $100.00 each. It wasn't hard to do. We were all highly trained and motivated salesmen. Too bad we didn't know how to clean carpets. This was just as hwe was becoming popular. We used rotary's and wet vac's instead. All of us worked from our car, not a van or a truck in the bunch. This was about 1980. I have no problem upselling, but I am in the house in the first place at a reasonable price, usually because of my reputation. If I don't upsell anything, I am still making a decent profit. If I do upsell, it's a bonus. There is a big difference between an owner/operator who content to have a small business and someone who measures his success by how large his business grows. Nothing wrong with either, just different ways of life.
 

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Greg is probably going to become very frustrated unless he finds hardcore go getters like himself.

I dont doubt he can be successful but not so sure he is going to like it unless he targets certain contractors, certain personality types.
Before he had massive power over the contractors but now you dont and cant force them to do the work.
 
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If you are selling cleaning at $20 a room for "Cleaning" and know most customers will need a "Deep cleaning", you are screwing people. You deserve 1 star reviews all over the internet for this. They are setting their own time aside for this cleaning, to be home, take off work, then have a price in mind that they can afford based on your quote, and then get screwed when someone like that gets to there home and says, instead of $60 for 3 rooms, its $300. Dumb and SHITTY.

1. You upset them and they send you away.
2. You upset them and they need it done, pay whatever price anyways, never recommend you, write bad reviews, etc.

Neither are good options. Don't think being "taught" great sales is important to F people over.
 
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I watched it twice this weekend so far. I watched South Paw three times.

Its rained the last few days. I've been stuck inside.

Tomorrow I'll be an "Outsider", no more rain!:biggrin:
 

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The bait and switch is cancer to any industry. People justify it as it's business. You are preying on people who don't know about what they are buying. It happens in HVAC, auto repair and car sales. People want someone they can trust. When you go get your hybrid repaired and they tell you the flex capacitor is bad, how do know what they are selling you for 3k. So I wonder how the guy that does thebait and switch in any business feels after his grandma on a fixed income bought a 4k rainbow vacuum financed for 6years at 25%.

We all want to make money. Honest money is the hardest money to make. We don't want to be viewed as loser high school drop outs that tell grandma that soap is an extra $10 a room. I wish Tom King would make a sales program. He knows how to ethically sale and it shows because he started with a Bane and now has multiple business's. This is what I do for a living and bait and switch gives my industry a bad name and gets us on the local news as thieves. Treat people how you want people to treat your family. Just my 2cents.


Ok but today's buyers are better informed thanks to this thing called the Internet, they're less likely to suckered and they're very unforgiving.

If a customer is responding to an advertisement that's low they're not a customer you want.

I want the customer whose done they're home work checked reviews and is more interested in a good job.

The coupon cleaners are almost nonexistent in the L.A. Market in the 70's thru to about 2005 there were 3-5 ads at every house every week.

I'm not sure who started it but my dad and 4 brothers started Millers Carpet care in 1974 they're first ad was 5 rooms $60.00. In the L.A. Times that ad brought in a crap load of calls. My family's been in the cleaning business ever since.

I can tell you this I would much rather be on the job responsible for the out come, then behind a desk answering 50-80 calls a day.

The one thing I do in business and did when I worked in the coupon industry, was try to be as informative as possible.

It's a free estimate there are existing conditions, were cleaning for the client trying to improve their situation.

I never buy a customer's problem I solve them.

When I went straight pricing on my own I had a no size limit 5 rooms $79.95 in 2000, that included pretreat and steam and furniture moving I was convinced as some are here that I didn't need to vacuum because my 10-20K machine was clearly better than a vacuum???

Today we Vacuum first , hydroforce pretreat CRB/ Steam, or R/E. Move most furniture drop fans and hand out shoe over.

It may not as extensive as some but we're up to $35.00 pre room with 200 sq ft limit and we do everything we can to give a price before we start , no surprises.

I think being honest and fair and doing your best is all any customer can ask for and if you work hard and respond to every call back with a visit and not an excuse you'll be decent at this business.
 

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I'm not sure who started it but my dad and 4 brothers started Millers Carpet care in 1974
I remember Millers Carpet Cleaning in LA. I'm sure they were legit but - Remember ZZZZ Best? Barry Minkow? Your Dad and his brother will for sure. I remember he was on Oprah... the city of LA gave him honorary keys to the city... he was poster boy for success in the carpet cleaning industry :-) This is from wikipedia-
Barry Jay Minkow (born March 22, 1966)[2] is an American former businessman, pastor, and convicted felon. While still in high school, he founded ZZZZ Best(pronounced "Zee Best"), which appeared to be an immensely successful carpet-cleaning and restoration company. However, it was actually a front to attract investment for a massive Ponzi scheme. It collapsed in 1987, costing investors and lenders $100 million—one of the largest investment frauds ever perpetrated by a single person, as well as one of the largest accounting frauds in history.
 
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Ya I remember, he got out prison became a pastor. Then took funds from his church used it to buy stocks and had his own watchdog site where he blasted a stock after it tanked he bought a bunch of that same business stock and got arressted. For imbezzeling and stock manipulation.

Sad because he appeared to be on the straight and narrow.
 
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According to Mike West and Jeff Bishop back in the 80's we had them certify a bunch of cleaners.

It was the largest class they had at the time.
 
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I almost started a second company named B-Right Carpet Care. Had a Dudley Do Right Mountie riding on a portable carpet cleaning machine. I was convinced minkow was a huge success. Then on Oprah he said he required his mom who worked for him to call him Mr Minkow. I thought, well, that's weird. Shortly after people began complaining their credit cards were being run for more than the job total. It all began falling apart then and we decided not to be in the side of the business he was in. We went to commercial and high end residential only.
Actually sorry to hear he fell back into his old ways. He sure knew how to make money though! ;-)
 
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This is the only job I've ever had. It was either this or the military and I'm such a rebel they'd of had to beat me into submission. :lol:

Ok maybe I should been a solider. But I have trouble marching in a straight lines on beat. :winky:
 

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Minkow also bought a flower shop Winnetka and Saticoy, they were going public and he needed cash flow so they ran a bunch of credit cards that weekend from the flower store. After they went public a few days later they credited all the cards.

Accountants always find out. He almost got away with it, we would be listening to zzzzbest commercials today. While Barry still drove his Ferrari
 
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