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Give til it hurts!!
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Josh Adler
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Geez guys......am i gonna have to change my name so you dont think im the same JOSH lol
hogjowl
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Lisa was going to dig into which bulletin board supplier took Josh under his wing and talked him into trading in the gift TM on a new one, but then backed out of it. I don't care about Josh. It's the supplier that I wanna know about.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Serious about what part?
Serious about a bulletin board supplier edging his way in? Yeah, I have a good feeling that is actually what happened, and I think I know who it was.
Serious about wanting to know who? Again, yeah I want to know.
I think Josh may have been played for the benefit of a broke dick supplier.
Serious about a bulletin board supplier edging his way in? Yeah, I have a good feeling that is actually what happened, and I think I know who it was.
Serious about wanting to know who? Again, yeah I want to know.
I think Josh may have been played for the benefit of a broke dick supplier.
Mikey P
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Marty has been reading my PMs.
truckmount girl
1800greenglides
Naw. It appears Josh was not coerced by anyone to do anything.
Josh told me he would come on and tell his side when he had a chance to cool down.
Take care,
Lisa
Josh told me he would come on and tell his side when he had a chance to cool down.
Take care,
Lisa
hogjowl
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It wasn't hard to guess that jughead was your password.
Lee Stockwell
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It was pretty apparent to any who read the board, no PM's needed.
Carpet Cleaning Fool
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hogjowl said:
Are you talking about the supplier who hasn't been seen or heard of since this whole thing went virual?
Yeah, I noticed too! But wtf? Everybody's got to eat. :|
Mikey P
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but is Crow really that tasty or good for you?
B&BGaryC
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Funny what people will justify. It would have been a hard decision to make though. Having daydreams of a trouble free 5-10 years out of a machine with good power so you can get more jobs done and get carpets cleaner. Happier customers, more business, a chance to finally get ahead... I can see how that would get tempting. "I'm doing this for my family" or "I'm doing this so I can help someone later" or ... Whatever.
I missed all that because I've been away from the boards for a while. I wonder how this will turn out. Last year I watched somebody who you would think was a pillar of the church completely crumble and fall away. It was over $100,000.00. He said it was over other things, but I'm pretty sure the $100,000.00 had more to do with it than anything. He was given blind trust and authority over a building project for another member. It was too large of a project for him and he didn't know what he was doing. Before anybody asked him for an account of what happened the funds were exhausted and the building didn't even have a roof or plumbing. Then he got mad that everybody asked him where he got the money to buy a fancy truck.
By the way, the signs were there all along. All those little things I ignored because I didn't want to be judgmental. I just worried a bit here and there about where his mindset was. When I looked back after all the dust settled I wondered how I ever could have missed the change in his behavior 5 years back. It was gradual, but still, he kept shuffling towards the door. It only took a $100,000.00 push to help him through the door.
I missed all that because I've been away from the boards for a while. I wonder how this will turn out. Last year I watched somebody who you would think was a pillar of the church completely crumble and fall away. It was over $100,000.00. He said it was over other things, but I'm pretty sure the $100,000.00 had more to do with it than anything. He was given blind trust and authority over a building project for another member. It was too large of a project for him and he didn't know what he was doing. Before anybody asked him for an account of what happened the funds were exhausted and the building didn't even have a roof or plumbing. Then he got mad that everybody asked him where he got the money to buy a fancy truck.
By the way, the signs were there all along. All those little things I ignored because I didn't want to be judgmental. I just worried a bit here and there about where his mindset was. When I looked back after all the dust settled I wondered how I ever could have missed the change in his behavior 5 years back. It was gradual, but still, he kept shuffling towards the door. It only took a $100,000.00 push to help him through the door.
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Mikey P said:
You all will believe what you want no matter what I say and this post may not have happened when some of you wanted it to, and some of you told me not to even bother posting anything, but I'm glad I waited to post this. Not only have I been very busy, I was pretty upset. There was some things that I wanted to say but knew I shouldn't. And thank you Harper for talking with me after Mike posted about this whole thing and for understanding that Christians are humans and may react to things like this in a human kind of way. I haven't been posting, but as Mike says-I 'sneak' in here late at night. LOL! Just checking my personal messages and looking to see if anymore of you are going to jump on Mike's wagon.
As you know Harper sent me his old set up with the help of some other people who donated money for shipping costs. The price I will be paying for the set up is $2500. Harper wanted that just between us, but apparently Mike wants different. Harper said he is in no hurry to get the money and as I start making money I could just start sending him money. Again, I really can't thank Harper and those who were doing this out of the kindness of your heart enough. I've been & am currently using the Harper TM to clean with and my family is grateful to you as well. Also to Jeremy for the bottles of cleaners and stain kit and to pacfancjh for the sample cleaning package, thank you guys very much, great products! It's going to good use.
While this 'no strings attached gift' was in route to Nevada, one of the people in my county who does not attend any church, but who I minister to (by minister I mean- spend time talking with and listening to, performed funerals and weddings for him and his family) saw me while I was having dinner with my family. He came over to our table to say hi. He said that he knew I was having trouble with older equipment wearing out and freezing up and breaking in the weather we'd been having. He said he wanted me to talk to him later that night no matter how late, so I did talk to him late that night. He told me that he sees how hard I work at trying to support my family and to pastor a church and community and how tough it gets for me trying to keep older worn equipment running so I can clean. He said he wanted to help get some descent equipment so that I could spend time in the business and make money for my family instead of putting money into and stressing over older broken equipment. I told him it was too expensive but that I appreciated the offer and that some people got together and are sending me a set up. He asked if it was new or used. I told him it was an older set up with high hours, but at least it works. His response was that it sounds like another old set up that I would be spending more time and money on to try and keep it running good enough to clean with. Again, I thanked him for the offer anyways. He actually got a little upset with me and said something like, 'what are you going to do, keep putting duct tape and bailing wire on it so you can support your family?' He insisted that I at least look into something new, so I agreed to look into it and we also agreed on a $10 grand allowance (his amount was more than that). We came to that amount because I read many times on these boards how the market was 'flooded' with almost new or well taken care of $10 grand set ups. WRONG! Anyway, I got off the phone after talking to the guy for a while and while surfing the web I noticed a special on this board for a TNT for $10 grand. I sent a PM to Greenie asking questions about the TM that very night, like 'why isn't there heat with the machine' and other questions.
I looked at equipment that whole month, but everything I found in the price range of $10 grand had 300,000 hours and up. I found something that would work for me and at the end of December I got serious about a purchase and then accepted the money from the guy for equipment in the first couple weeks of January. The deal includes the trade in of the Harper unit and as soon as I felt serious about the deal I called and talked to Harper about it, he didn't like it at first but after talking with him for a bit he said it was cool with him. He DID warn me that some of you would rip me apart over this and I told him that I knew it would happen and figured that it would be Mikey and the 'some Christian you are-there is no God' group more than anything (not all of you, but most).
About the Harper van- My brother is a business owner in another town. I owed him money for a set up I bought a while back and he took an old set up of mine instead; a Chevy van and an EZ1836. The Chevy van just had like $2500 dollars worth of work put into it and should last a very long time. He wanted to help me out so he traded me the Harper van for the nicer Chevy van. So I've been running the Harper TM from a Chevy van now instead of the Harper van.
Before Harper sent his old set up, the TM I bought a while ago is what I was using and it froze and started spraying water here and there. I have gone through it a bit and it just needs a few repairs now to get it in working order. The plan was to use that TM to 'pay it forward' to another cleaner I know that lives about an hour from me. I would help him with as much repairs as I could and he could use it to clean with. It could really help him and his family out and I know they would really appreciate it. And if he didn't keep it, that would be fine.
I was hoping the ones who were actually involved in getting the set up to me (a lot of people want to be involved now) would be happy about this. #1-Right now I'm using the Harper equipment to keep food on the table, #2-which will allow me to pay it forward with the other machine, and #3-I'll use the Harper TM towards the purchase of a new TM. If I didn't receive the set up- I'd have a harder time keeping food on the table, I wouldn't be able to get the new TM, I wouldn't be able to help out the other cleaner. With this set up, I will now be able to do work in like nine other towns.
One thing's for sure, I definitely found out who my friends were and were NOT! I was actually kind of shocked to read how fast some of you are willing to take Mike's word as gospel! And then some of you were jumping on the band wagon and making claims not only about my past on these boards (let's see you back up those claims!) but calling my walk with God and ministry into question! And then some of you were even calling me names! Sheesh!
That's all I've got to say about this. I'm making the offer right now, to all those who donated money to get the set up to me, if you feel 'ripped off' or 'taken' or whatever and would like your money back that you donated, let me know and I'll get your money back to you. That includes Greenglide Lisa who is said to have donated $500 to the shipping cost. I've always liked and respected her and how gracious and giving she is. She also didn't want everybody to know about that, but like I said, Mike wanted different and like he keeps saying, it's HIS board. I have a few names of the ones who donated money, Harper didn't give me a list but I'm sure he can get that to me if needed.
Mike, you thought I was rude to you on the phone yesterday? I was actually being nicer than what I should have been. I don't know why you have my cell number, but lose it. Do not call me. If you see me, do not attempt to talk to me.
Lee Stockwell
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Cut and paste getting a real workout tonight.
Three months ago would have seemed more sincere.
Three months ago would have seemed more sincere.
Mikey P
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So Josh according to Judson your truckmount has not even been ordered yet.
YET you gave Greenie the 10 grand over a month ago, what the hell is up with that?
YET you gave Greenie the 10 grand over a month ago, what the hell is up with that?
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Lee Stockwell said:
Sure this isn't Nick using Lee's password?
Lee Stockwell said:
Really? I would like to see those posts! You know how to cut and paste. You should have no problem finding these posts where I'm crucifying this guy EVERY CHANCE I GOT. Are you going to back what you're saying or are you just talking out your rear?
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Re: freeflow Rebuttal
Posted By JoshuaT Wood on 8/24/2007 at 4:07 PM
I own an EZ.
Is this kind of story out of the ordinary?:
"About 1 year ago, I purchased a machine from Nick @ EZ Truckmounts. The price was right, and I was greatful that Nick was willing to build me a machine for a nice price.
Alas, it was to good to be true.
The machine was delayed. Nick made the excuse that his worker wasn't up to snuff, and he couldn't get the machine out.
I thought, ok. That happens. But near the delievery date, Nick became difficult to reach on the phone, and when I did get him on the phone he wasn't as nice as he was before I wired him several thousand dollars.
When we talked he let me know that the machine MAY have some things wrong with it due to aforementioned less than stellar employee that he had to fire. He also did not include many of the features that he promised would be on the machine.
The lid for the waste tank, came in Stainless Steel, when I ordered Blue. The same color as the machine. Is that so tough. Also, I had to install the gasket on the waste tank lid myself with the included weatherstripping adhesive that actually exploded during shipment, and was all over the waste tank lid.
Fast forward to the day of intended delivery. Well, as the machine sat on the dock to be picked up by myself, Nick calls the delivery company and bars me from picking the item up, even after I paid for the item in FULL. He wasn't confident in his machine, and had it shipped back to him in Texas.
Oh, did I mention, that another reason for the delay was that Nick, shipped the machine to the wrong address intially. The delivery company could not find the address nor contact Nick, so they sent the machine back to Texas to redelivered back to California.
Then all this other delay stuff happened.
At any rate Nick, refunded only part of my money. I'm still waiting for $500 he owe's me. I'll probably never see it.
I've refrained from commenting, under the notion that what goes around comes around. But i saw this thread, and thought i would at least post to help a newbie who may be in the same situation I was in. BUYER BEWARE. People like Nice, and EZ Truckmounts have over extended themselves, and run a humdrum operation out of their backyard.
I hope to get my $5 bills, but I'm not holding my breath.
I know I will catch some flames from loyal followers here, but I can't stand by. I would hate for another new cleaner coming here for unbais opinions to not get the complete story. He burned me. Plain and simple, for no reason whatsoever.
To those cleaner who have machines from Nick, and EZ Truckmounts that operate and everything is fine; great for you. I wish I had a great experience too, but that's not the case.
One more thing. Nick offers kickbacks to cleaners who post favorable comments on these forums. I know, because he offered me this deal.
After dealing with freeflow, and EZ Truckmounts, I can say that it's not what I would call an ethical business operation.
If you see Nick, tell Thomas Turner still wants his money. He won't answer my calls nor my messages."
Modified By JoshuaT Wood on 8/24/2007 at 5:26 PM
Posted By JoshuaT Wood on 8/24/2007 at 4:07 PM
I own an EZ.
Is this kind of story out of the ordinary?:
"About 1 year ago, I purchased a machine from Nick @ EZ Truckmounts. The price was right, and I was greatful that Nick was willing to build me a machine for a nice price.
Alas, it was to good to be true.
The machine was delayed. Nick made the excuse that his worker wasn't up to snuff, and he couldn't get the machine out.
I thought, ok. That happens. But near the delievery date, Nick became difficult to reach on the phone, and when I did get him on the phone he wasn't as nice as he was before I wired him several thousand dollars.
When we talked he let me know that the machine MAY have some things wrong with it due to aforementioned less than stellar employee that he had to fire. He also did not include many of the features that he promised would be on the machine.
The lid for the waste tank, came in Stainless Steel, when I ordered Blue. The same color as the machine. Is that so tough. Also, I had to install the gasket on the waste tank lid myself with the included weatherstripping adhesive that actually exploded during shipment, and was all over the waste tank lid.
Fast forward to the day of intended delivery. Well, as the machine sat on the dock to be picked up by myself, Nick calls the delivery company and bars me from picking the item up, even after I paid for the item in FULL. He wasn't confident in his machine, and had it shipped back to him in Texas.
Oh, did I mention, that another reason for the delay was that Nick, shipped the machine to the wrong address intially. The delivery company could not find the address nor contact Nick, so they sent the machine back to Texas to redelivered back to California.
Then all this other delay stuff happened.
At any rate Nick, refunded only part of my money. I'm still waiting for $500 he owe's me. I'll probably never see it.
I've refrained from commenting, under the notion that what goes around comes around. But i saw this thread, and thought i would at least post to help a newbie who may be in the same situation I was in. BUYER BEWARE. People like Nice, and EZ Truckmounts have over extended themselves, and run a humdrum operation out of their backyard.
I hope to get my $5 bills, but I'm not holding my breath.
I know I will catch some flames from loyal followers here, but I can't stand by. I would hate for another new cleaner coming here for unbais opinions to not get the complete story. He burned me. Plain and simple, for no reason whatsoever.
To those cleaner who have machines from Nick, and EZ Truckmounts that operate and everything is fine; great for you. I wish I had a great experience too, but that's not the case.
One more thing. Nick offers kickbacks to cleaners who post favorable comments on these forums. I know, because he offered me this deal.
After dealing with freeflow, and EZ Truckmounts, I can say that it's not what I would call an ethical business operation.
If you see Nick, tell Thomas Turner still wants his money. He won't answer my calls nor my messages."
Modified By JoshuaT Wood on 8/24/2007 at 5:26 PM
Mikey P
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oh, that one... :shock:
-Josh on Mikey's PC.
-Josh on Mikey's PC.
Mikey P
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Yeah right. I did not post that.
Link please.
Link please.
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