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Desk Jockey
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But don't the hole glides last longer than the hybrid? We used to buy hybrids but now just get holes.
Jim Martin
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ruff
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- Small holes glide: Easiest to move across carpet. Better for OCD, ADD, somewhat wimpy BB hoopla type personalities. You'd better Wernerize the hack out of the carpet prior to cleaning. No agitation at all from the glide. Will last longer.
- Hybrid: Neither here nor there.
- Slotted: Will pick more debris. Will last a little less. Agitates the carpet more. Need somewhat more effort to move the wand compared to the holed one (nothing major). Designed for real cleaners
truckmount girl
1800greenglides
Actually holes give the best water recovery and the easiest push, but they don't pick up debris any bigger than a frog freckle and give the least "wand lip" agitation. Popular with guys that do a lot of higher end residential and commercial offices, religious pre-vacuumers.
The slots have the poorest water recovery and the hardest push (still tons better than a glideless wand, but of the glides it is the poorest and hardest), but it picks up the most debris and gives the most "wand lip agitation" of the glides. It is popular with guys who don't pre-vac, and/or do a lot of apartments and restaurants.
The hybrid is in the middle for both performance and pushability. It will pick up debris up to about the size of a sunflower seed.
Also - the smaller the machine the wand is hooked to, the bigger the difference in dry times between the three configurations. If they are using a porty or small TM like a Bane or #3 blower unit, the difference in dry time between a hole, hybrid and slot will be huge. If they have a big TM with a #5 or 6 blower like a Vortex, Aerotech or big SteamAction, the difference in dry time won't be noticeable at all, the big difference will be in ease of push for them.
Take care,
Lisa
The slots have the poorest water recovery and the hardest push (still tons better than a glideless wand, but of the glides it is the poorest and hardest), but it picks up the most debris and gives the most "wand lip agitation" of the glides. It is popular with guys who don't pre-vac, and/or do a lot of apartments and restaurants.
The hybrid is in the middle for both performance and pushability. It will pick up debris up to about the size of a sunflower seed.
Also - the smaller the machine the wand is hooked to, the bigger the difference in dry times between the three configurations. If they are using a porty or small TM like a Bane or #3 blower unit, the difference in dry time between a hole, hybrid and slot will be huge. If they have a big TM with a #5 or 6 blower like a Vortex, Aerotech or big SteamAction, the difference in dry time won't be noticeable at all, the big difference will be in ease of push for them.
Take care,
Lisa
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
the recovery on the short slot is the best I have ever had...
dries the same if not better then my hole glide.....
dries the same if not better then my hole glide.....
truckmount girl
1800greenglides
That's because you run a big blower TM. You would not get the same performance with a porty, a small TM or even a mid-size.
I let guys have what they want. I make holes, regular slots, short slots, hybrids, rug glides, big hole glides, whatever. But the rules of physics are unchanging. You get great performance because you have a big blower and low restriction and have more potential energy. It's not the same where the blower is small or on a porty.
Take care,
Lisa
Art Kelley
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I am not a religious prevacuumer, (I am neither), but I have found the hole glide to be the best for my Ti wand. I had the hybrid glide and it was better for picking up debris, but for ease of use, nothing is better than a hole glide. It flumps over debris, and when you are through with a room you need to take your vac hose and pick up all the little pieces the wand didn't extract. That can take up to 45 seconds.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
I'll preface by saying I've only done my testing with a #4 blower spinning @ 3100 rpm @14" lift
here's the scoop;
Most don;t have have a wand they can easily swap glides to do SAME ROOM,/SAME DAY/SAME WAND evaluations .
So they all just parrot the party line everyone else says
truth is, there's not a dimes worth of difference in dry times on any of 'em if you're using pre-spray in sufficient quantity to clean soiled carpet.
It will "feel" like it immediately after a wand stroke, but 20 minutes later you won't "feel" much if any difference .
and monitor to "complete" dry (not the one-two hour boloney some yawks claim as "dry") but "completely" dry, you'll discover there's no great difference
so, until you get a wand that can change glides in seconds like i have, (moSt don't) and until you do side by side on same room/same day and monitor to "complete" dry (most won't) don;t give me any chit...cause I'll tell you you're full of it and talking out your azz...or your wand technique stinks
They do dry better (any of them) in most cases because...
1.) they prevent wand lock down to help airflow
2.) some of the lazy yawks are NOW giving drying dry strokes cause it doesn't kill them to do so
.L.TA..
here's the scoop;
Most don;t have have a wand they can easily swap glides to do SAME ROOM,/SAME DAY/SAME WAND evaluations .
So they all just parrot the party line everyone else says
truth is, there's not a dimes worth of difference in dry times on any of 'em if you're using pre-spray in sufficient quantity to clean soiled carpet.
It will "feel" like it immediately after a wand stroke, but 20 minutes later you won't "feel" much if any difference .
and monitor to "complete" dry (not the one-two hour boloney some yawks claim as "dry") but "completely" dry, you'll discover there's no great difference
so, until you get a wand that can change glides in seconds like i have, (moSt don't) and until you do side by side on same room/same day and monitor to "complete" dry (most won't) don;t give me any chit...cause I'll tell you you're full of it and talking out your azz...or your wand technique stinks
They do dry better (any of them) in most cases because...
1.) they prevent wand lock down to help airflow
2.) some of the lazy yawks are NOW giving drying dry strokes cause it doesn't kill them to do so
.L.TA..
BINGO! I have a glide that will do that, and not wreck the integrity of the glide and is reversible. I have had a Perfect wand in mind a long time but already have too many coals in the fire.
If i could get some backing this could become a reality!
If i could get some backing this could become a reality!
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
If your going to test something it has to be in the field up against every variable you can find..not in some back yard or at some show...
After I got my short slot glide I brought in both wands that were identical except one had the hole glide and one had the short slot........
I ran them on different type of carpets and then with 2 different machines....I did for over a month side by side..it was fast and easy just to change the wand..in the end....I now have a short slot on both wands.......any one want to by a very slightly used hole glide for a 14 inch westpac let me know because it will never go back on my wand....
After I got my short slot glide I brought in both wands that were identical except one had the hole glide and one had the short slot........
I ran them on different type of carpets and then with 2 different machines....I did for over a month side by side..it was fast and easy just to change the wand..in the end....I now have a short slot on both wands.......any one want to by a very slightly used hole glide for a 14 inch westpac let me know because it will never go back on my wand....
hogjowl
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It's the latest fad to conform to the new bulletin board fashion. Tomorrow it will be something else.
And none of us will be any better off.
And none of us will be any better off.
Mikey P
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I could only imaginehow great it would be.
I think you'd find out that the OOs of the world fork over close to two grand for a perfected scalpel..
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Since you're quoting the great one:
Are you wearing your Depends?
Are you wearing your Depends?
Desk Jockey
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Jim Martin
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I feel your pain...even my Hoss wont grab then damn things........
Mikey P
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Your uprights do though, right?
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
yes...but if you miss one or for what ever reason one of those things comes creeping out on you...just disconnect your hose and suck it up ...if not you will be chasing that thing from one end of the house to the other.........
truckmount girl
1800greenglides
If anyone, even Larry, wants to see a more dramatic illustration of the difference in dry times between a hole and a slot AND you have an RX20 (or a buddy with one) PM me and I will get a set of holes and a set of slots and send them around to everyone one by one. Run it on a CGD carpet and you will get the most exaggerated difference and will easily be able to tell the dry time difference between the two. With my first TM, which had a #3 blower, the difference between holes and slots with the RX was over 8 hours. The #4 unit I got later was still a good 5 hours difference. The bigger the machine, the less difference.
Take care,
Lisa
Take care,
Lisa
ruff
Member
In other words, Lisa:
For machines with little airflow and or water lift, a reduced opening size, as in the holed glide, will enable them to recover more water.
Which will be doubly emphasized by the water splashing RX-20, that is prone to over wetting to begin with. And CGD which presents much more of a challenge for water recovery (no pad, no airflow through carpet) will double the whammy.
Nobody doubts that you know your glides.
For machines with little airflow and or water lift, a reduced opening size, as in the holed glide, will enable them to recover more water.
Which will be doubly emphasized by the water splashing RX-20, that is prone to over wetting to begin with. And CGD which presents much more of a challenge for water recovery (no pad, no airflow through carpet) will double the whammy.
Nobody doubts that you know your glides.
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