I love how the ones who are saying the dods are dirtbag marketing are the same ones who will whine and say the economy, the weather, the alignment of the planets in general is keeping their phones from ringing. No one specific, just something I notice...
Groupon, Living Social, And Yelp Gone Bad!
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Ken Snow
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Loland they won't get out of their pj's for less than $200
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sam miller said:
Charge so much. Sheesh. :shock:
It always makes me wonder just why people will have the audacity to go out of their way to accuse contractors of greed.
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Is there any way to get a "deal" going where one could get at least $100.00 after Groupons cut but before the before the upsell?
Brian R
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You could run a whole house special with protectant....Regular $400.......Now $200....Split with Groupon.
But I would never do that.
Just do 3 rooms for around $65 or $69 and you'll make over $100 if you offer more services to your customers when you get there.
$32 from Groupon (in 3 lump paymtents), offer protectant, extra rooms, upholstery.
If they don't budge, charge for halls, closets and extra sqft where available.
But I would never do that.
Just do 3 rooms for around $65 or $69 and you'll make over $100 if you offer more services to your customers when you get there.
$32 from Groupon (in 3 lump paymtents), offer protectant, extra rooms, upholstery.
If they don't budge, charge for halls, closets and extra sqft where available.
Ken Snow
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Bee Busy said:
Come on Bill. It's not like that at all. My business has much more to offer than that but sometimes it starts at much less.
It's not about cost, or lack of it. It's about image and then quality work once image get's you in the door.
I know you do super quality work and want to get paid for it. AND you should.
But your Tile cleaning etc warrants a much higher cost to begin...... I would only suggest using carpet cleaning as the image setter.... a way for the customer to get to know you before they make the much larger purchase.
You know this already...I believe you've said that carpet cleaning is your upsell from the hard surface work.....Of course that door can swing both ways.
I think your major challenge (as is for most in your class) would be to find the higher end hard surface jobs and market your carpet cleaning to earn the trust.
Just my 2 cents...either way, you're going to be different from the average carpet cleaner with just a small amount of regular tile cleaning etc.
Brian R
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Speaking of image... Robert Alexander has one hell of an image for hard surface work. (You probably know Robert)
Sasso Bello impresses me in a big way. I know him personally.
If that's the kind of work you or anyone wants... I would suggest stepping up the image to mirror the type of work you do.
http://www.sassobello.com/
Sasso Bello impresses me in a big way. I know him personally.
If that's the kind of work you or anyone wants... I would suggest stepping up the image to mirror the type of work you do.
http://www.sassobello.com/
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Brian - Why argue. It worked for your business others dont want to use it for their business. I showed how it worked for me. you showed how it worked for you. They can either choose to use the format or not. It's like the Cimex and OP. Why waste time arguing about whether it works or not. Cimex makes me alot of money and the Orbot makes you alot of money. Despite the fact that lots of people want to argue about what cleans better.
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Purely for informational value.
I like discussing it because I might learn something as well.
Lurkers may get something out of it too.
Ok, It's fun for me too. lol.
I like discussing it because I might learn something as well.
Lurkers may get something out of it too.
Ok, It's fun for me too. lol.
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kingjoelking said:
It's called self justification.
Brian is trying to build credibility and rationalize his model. C'mon, everybody knows he built his business on paper so he could dupe some poor Joe into taking it off his hands.
Tricky, tricky there, Tex.
It's all part of his roundabout way of telling everybody that he's an expert bass fisherman, when he's really throwing out bait for sucker fish. When questioned, he shows a basket filled with red herrings and all the while, he is but a mere catfish hisowndamnself.
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Wow.
You're a great story teller Connor.
You're a great story teller Connor.
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Brian R said:
Thanks, it's a gift.
I am also available for shindigs, rallies, conventions and church revivals.
Brian R said:
Come on Bill. It's not like that at all. My business has much more to offer than that but sometimes it starts at much less.
It's not about cost, or lack of it. It's about image and then quality work once image get's you in the door.
I know you do super quality work and want to get paid for it. AND you should.
But your Tile cleaning etc warrants a much higher cost to begin...... I would only suggest using carpet cleaning as the image setter.... a way for the customer to get to know you before they make the much larger purchase.
You know this already...I believe you've said that carpet cleaning is your upsell from the hard surface work.....Of course that door can swing both ways.
yeah it goes both ways for me, i just can't do the low price thing to get in.
I think your major challenge (as is for most in your class) would be to find the higher end hard surface jobs and market your carpet cleaning to earn the trust.
Just my 2 cents...either way, you're going to be different from the average carpet cleaner with just a small amount of regular tile cleaning etc.[/quote:1hmygo3e]
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Seems like a mess to me and we have no problem with a $70 initial job but $30 is absurd.
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Connor said:
Could be that I've done enough of them to know better.
Unlike yourself and just speculating on something because you don't have the ballcocks to try it. !gotcha!
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Brian R said:
I 'spose it's easy to look yourself in the mirror when the portrait is in the attic, n'est-ce pas, Monsieur Gray?
Before you say you're gonna make it rain, you might want to fix your leaky roof, lest your house be ruined by your rain and you have to move again.
Enjoy your bliss.
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I'll get a roofer from Groupon.
Brian R said:
And you will need to replace it in 10 years.. I'll go with my roofer and get 30 years for just a half more. :roll: hey Marty, blow me :mrgreen: Most cheap roofers void the shingle warranty by poor installation. :roll:
Brian R
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Nahh, I'll do my homework and make sure it's a reputable company. 8)
If a roofer is running a Groupon deal they are either very good or very bad.
If a roofer is running a Groupon deal they are either very good or very bad.
Ken Snow
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And you will need to replace it in 10 years.. I'll go with my roofer and get 30 years for just a half more. :roll: hey Marty, blow me :mrgreen: Most cheap roofers void the shingle warranty by poor installation. :roll:[/quote:10n0svqk]
Where is your factual data on that one Keith and why is a roofer that chooses to do a groupon offer necc cheap?
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I doubted whether a roofer would run a Groupon for a new roof...There needs to be room for extra services.
http://www.groupon.com/deals/the-portland-roofers
http://www.groupon.com/deals/sc-roofing
http://www.groupon.com/ch/home-and-gard ... ng-company
http://www.groupon.com/deals/the-portland-roofers
http://www.groupon.com/deals/sc-roofing
http://www.groupon.com/ch/home-and-gard ... ng-company
Ken Snow said:
And you will need to replace it in 10 years.. I'll go with my roofer and get 30 years for just a half more. :roll: hey Marty, blow me :mrgreen: Most cheap roofers void the shingle warranty by poor installation. :roll:[/quote:1u3gbam0]
Where is your factual data on that one Keith and why is a roofer that chooses to do a groupon offer necc cheap?[/quote:1u3gbam0]
The only factual data I am working from is from our industry do you have other data that sez it aint so??
Ranch house with a tare off:
Normal price:$12,000
Groupon special: $8,000
Groupon cut: $4,000
Shingles and supplies: $2,000
15 mexicans and a day and a half work: $500 :mrgreen:
You could always upsell then a ridge vent, or ice guard. :shock: :roll: Or you could tell them for an extra $8,000 you could do it right, and put in more then two nails per shingle. With that extra $8,000 you might be able to get a 30year shingle instead of this Chinese shit we have been trying to get rid of. :mrgreen:
Come on you get what you pay for... I think the roof on your house might be a little more important then price.
Ken Snow
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LOL- I ask you a question and then you want me to prove you are wrong? Too funny.
Most large items deals I have seen are only for a portion so in your example it might be a 100, 200 or even 500 dollar certificate for a roofing job at half the face value. So 200.00 would cost 100 and the roofer gets 50 of that so ultimately gets $7800 for that $8000 job.
Did I unprove your point adequately?
Most large items deals I have seen are only for a portion so in your example it might be a 100, 200 or even 500 dollar certificate for a roofing job at half the face value. So 200.00 would cost 100 and the roofer gets 50 of that so ultimately gets $7800 for that $8000 job.
Did I unprove your point adequately?
