Heat generated in pro1200se van from just the machine.
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FB7777
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Stick it under the metal shroud of the machine for a couple hours running ... I bet you get significantly higher reading
What was the hypothesis of this experiment , that if you run a machine with components that produce temperature over 200 degrees them the cab temperature will rise , especially when you place the gauge on a highly heat conductive metal adjacent to the heat producing components?
What was the hypothesis of this experiment , that if you run a machine with components that produce temperature over 200 degrees them the cab temperature will rise , especially when you place the gauge on a highly heat conductive metal adjacent to the heat producing components?
i dont think i need to do that, the question i was asked was if it will keep the van warm.
it went from 55 degrees to 90 degrees in the van with zero heat on in the van. the temp gage was put on the belt cover that has a belt spinning on the other side and generates some air flow. Ill do another test with it in my cup holder, i could have stuck it on the ceiling if i wanted a higher temp reading, or actually on top of the machine.
it went from 55 degrees to 90 degrees in the van with zero heat on in the van. the temp gage was put on the belt cover that has a belt spinning on the other side and generates some air flow. Ill do another test with it in my cup holder, i could have stuck it on the ceiling if i wanted a higher temp reading, or actually on top of the machine.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
In the really super cold... Even super below zero temps, we will lift open the lid to Butlers so the heat from the unit and heat exchanger will help to keep the van cab warm.
So far never had a problem keeping heat in the cab while working and the heat to the van turned off to run the units
So far never had a problem keeping heat in the cab while working and the heat to the van turned off to run the units
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Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Lol
I have been lucky and not had anything in the back freeze up while running.
I have been having the Butler insulation kits installed but even prior to these last two vans I went without insulation... Maybe it's all the crap I am carrying... No room for cold air... Lol
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FB7777
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Only issue I've had was when I would store the stair and upholstery tools on the rear door
Froze once back in 2003, learned my lesson and now store them up front during the winter
Froze once back in 2003, learned my lesson and now store them up front during the winter
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
in my side in van when it was tool cold to run the machine, i would put an oil filled electric radiator in the back and plug it in even with the van running while i was knocking out apartments with encap. just so nothing would freeze. the one time i did it last year it was -20 and i had an apartment to do, luckily it wasn't beyond what encap could do. but boy it was "Saiger" cold out.
rwcarpet
Supportive Member
OK. We've about talked this to death. If you're comfortable with taking a reading right at the machine, that's good. My only real concern is in sub-zero temps, windy day, extracting flood water ( which is very common around here in NE Ohio from frozen and burst pipes). Will there be enough heat at the extreme rear of the extended van, near the rear doors. During extended extraction jobs. If it doesn't worry you and you're comfortable with what you have, that is good. And you're right about leaving the van heater on full while extracting.
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I gotta listen to Mark here.....he's had plenty of sub zero running time with basically the same type of DD unit. He's experienced some freezing and took measures to prevent it. I'll keep extra solution hoses and tools closer to the Pro1200 unit during cold temps to guard against freezing. Will probably be doing some insulating inside the van this winter. What's anyone using to insulate the floor of your van?
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
The Butler insulation lit, they have something on the floor which I have never looked at, but also the carpet has a plastic liner on top of that too it seems.
I have used rubber floor matting over the carpet and vinyl flooring that is comfy but also seems to help keep the heat in too.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
I have had my rear waste filter bags... Well heck any filter bag come to think of it freeze up just doing water extraction...
Eventually just took the filter bag out in that extreme situations
Eventually just took the filter bag out in that extreme situations
i have the walls and roof insulated, and the floor in the rear i have a couple moving blankets to make sure there is no conducting of the cold into my tools. but in my other van i bought a foam floor mat that has about 3/4 inch of foam topped in carpet and it really helped. ill throw up a link to it. ill probably get it for this van when i get a min.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...floor mat&qid=1449499073&ref_=sr_1_14&sr=8-14
this is the same one i have in my ford.
this is the same one i have in my ford.
Zee
Supportive Member
I figured out another really good way to prevent the freezing of tools etc...
moved away from that nonsense..... Works like magic.
Stirring shit- in progress...
moved away from that nonsense..... Works like magic.
Stirring shit- in progress...
That heat comin off the 1200SE might be nice right now, but come summer you won't be so happy.
when I first saw that unit one of my first thoughts was the placement of the components is right by the drivers head.
those blowers can carry some serious heat for a long time.
when I first saw that unit one of my first thoughts was the placement of the components is right by the drivers head.
those blowers can carry some serious heat for a long time.
cant make everyone happy, did I mention I have air conditioning in my vans.
steamron
Member
If it gets that dam cold out I simply tell people they will have to wait, most have no problem waiting.
SamIam
Member
I live in the desert and the A/C on the chevy is pretty awesome, no worse then standing ina house thats 85-90 and steaming and melting, guess I would rather be hot then cold can always clean nude! Doah. put your cloths back on.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
85-90 isn't steaming.
SamIam
Member
In the house with out A/C behind a machine billowing steam. Oh ya you live in humidty nevermind.
normally if its that hot in a house, its 95-105 outside
I highly doubt you've cleaned in a house thats 90 inside but if you have its not fun.
normally if its that hot in a house, its 95-105 outside
I highly doubt you've cleaned in a house thats 90 inside but if you have its not fun.
had a cleaning job here during the summer where this little old lady wanted me to clean the attic bedroom, so i took my stuff up and it was at least 90 degrees up there, tried to open the windows but they were painted shut from years of lead based paint, i cleaned as quickly as i could, but i think i still lost 4 lbs in water. all i know is my shirt was soaked, my hair was wet and I wrapped up my crap and left in record time. drank a ton of water the whole rest of that day, still didnt pee till the next day. i wont forget that one.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
120 inside, upstairs empty no electric in August. 99% rh. Add steam!
Finished and then enjoyed the cool breezes outside...
Where it was only 85-90 deg.
Finished and then enjoyed the cool breezes outside...
Where it was only 85-90 deg.
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FB7777
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Man Lee
I'd never do that in this day and age
Money ain't worth it and the carpet will never dry and probably be in worse shape from the humidity. It would take days to dry and probably wasn't " dry" before you cleaned it
I'd never do that in this day and age
Money ain't worth it and the carpet will never dry and probably be in worse shape from the humidity. It would take days to dry and probably wasn't " dry" before you cleaned it
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
That's how we make the "easy money" in KY in the dog days of summer.
Seriously, have fired 2 landlords who have repeatedly not turned on utilities.
Seriously, have fired 2 landlords who have repeatedly not turned on utilities.
hogjowl
Idiot™
I hear ya. For years and years, I only worked for one property manager. She was real bad about sending me to empty houses in the summer with no utilities and the widows painted shut. (or nailed shut) As I grew older, I started refusing those jobs and she got better about not turning the utilities off. Then, two years ago, I picked up a HUGE property management company. They like to do the same thing. .
I won't do it.
I won't do it.
SamIam
Member
I did one it was a 105 outside and it was a small rental no swamp cooler which just adds humidity anyway. But the customer turned on the self cleaning oven it was about 125 in the house. I thought to myself is this a for taste of HELL!
