Desk Jockey
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Missed it by a day.
But Fred has the link to the recorded session available already. Thanks Fred!
Hey Matt it's a great time to buy a Cimex !
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But Fred has the link to the recorded session available already. Thanks Fred!
Mikey P
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Missed it by a day.
But Fred has the link to the recorded session available already. Thanks Fred!
oh wait!! Today is my birthday too. Dang im losing it.
Desk Jockey
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LOL
Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday!
I'm an owner operator, so there's no fools working for me, I want immediate removal of spots, and I like the onboard spray system. Should I get the Cimex or OP?
Nate The Great
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Cimex = Regular vacuuming to remove the encapsulated soil.....
OP = Using a scrubbing pad and/or a bonnet to absorb the soil load, then having to wash to clean them...
OP = Using a scrubbing pad and/or a bonnet to absorb the soil load, then having to wash to clean them...
The offices I'll be cleaning probably don't vacuum regularly
Desk Jockey
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Ask Mike. He is in the same boat.
Mikey P
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I hate using OP machines, and no they don't absorb all the soil load.
Yes some goop is sucked up into the pad or bonnet but not 1/100 of what HWE pulls out. The days of the OP hucksters selling you thousands of pads are gone, have you noticed?
No one was flipping and changing their cotton op pads like they should have (one side every 20 sf or so) so they went to more aggressive synthetic pads and more polymer in the juice to better break loose and HIDE the soil load. Now a daysn the OP gawd make their revenue on over priced juice and grossly overpriced machines that need replacing every 8 months due to planned obsolescence..
The manufacturers had a heck of a time finding a cotton pad that would work with a Velcro type driver without destroying the pad in a few uses. Now we see bristle type drivers pushing micro fiber pads and are told to believe that a whole home's worth of soil is being contained in the foam inside the pad..
Some HWE die hards will never come to terms with using magic to "clean" Carpet, Saiger, Erik, Lockhart for example.
Me?
I prefer to grind away on commercial with a Cimex and post pad the gooey areas with a 175 when needed.
OPs with spray ahead systems and I don't get along. YMMV.
Yes some goop is sucked up into the pad or bonnet but not 1/100 of what HWE pulls out. The days of the OP hucksters selling you thousands of pads are gone, have you noticed?
No one was flipping and changing their cotton op pads like they should have (one side every 20 sf or so) so they went to more aggressive synthetic pads and more polymer in the juice to better break loose and HIDE the soil load. Now a daysn the OP gawd make their revenue on over priced juice and grossly overpriced machines that need replacing every 8 months due to planned obsolescence..
The manufacturers had a heck of a time finding a cotton pad that would work with a Velcro type driver without destroying the pad in a few uses. Now we see bristle type drivers pushing micro fiber pads and are told to believe that a whole home's worth of soil is being contained in the foam inside the pad..
Some HWE die hards will never come to terms with using magic to "clean" Carpet, Saiger, Erik, Lockhart for example.
Me?
I prefer to grind away on commercial with a Cimex and post pad the gooey areas with a 175 when needed.
OPs with spray ahead systems and I don't get along. YMMV.
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Desk Jockey
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LOL
I knew I could get you to spill the beans. You tried to get me to say it yesterday.
Get a Cimex and a 175 with some pads. If the time comes you feel you have out grown the 175 and want something more aggressive do so. Meanwhile the 175 will give you a similar experience.
I knew I could get you to spill the beans. You tried to get me to say it yesterday.
Get a Cimex and a 175 with some pads. If the time comes you feel you have out grown the 175 and want something more aggressive do so. Meanwhile the 175 will give you a similar experience.
Desk Jockey
Member
Here is the other thing. If Rick is bringing both systems. WAIT, try them both in Nashville and buy one of them so Rick doesn't have to truck it back.
Desk Jockey
Member
Ohh man!
Matt I'd still wait talk to the other cleaners there. Some won't hold back like Mike and actually say how they feel.
OP have its place and can be a very good system. Although I still think Cimex and a Sidewinder to begin with.
Matt I'd still wait talk to the other cleaners there. Some won't hold back like Mike and actually say how they feel.
OP have its place and can be a very good system. Although I still think Cimex and a Sidewinder to begin with.
Desk Jockey
Member
Reg is cool! He was fun to hang with in ATL and KC. Nice guy!
I hate using OP machines, and no they don't absorb all the soil load.
Yes some goop is sucked up into the pad or bonnet but not 1/100 of what HWE pulls out. The days of the OP hucksters selling you thousands of pads are gone, have you noticed?
No one was flipping and changing their cotton op pads like they should have (one side every 20 sf or so) so they went to more aggressive synthetic pads and more polymer in the juice to better break loose and HIDE the soil load. Now a daysn the OP gawd make their revenue on over priced juice and grossly overpriced machines that need replacing every 8 months due to planned obsolescence..
The manufacturers had a heck of a time finding a cotton pad that would work with a Velcro type driver without destroying the pad in a few uses. Now we see bristle type drivers pushing micro fiber pads and are told to believe that a whole home's worth of soil is being contained in the foam inside the pad..
Some HWE die hards will never come to terms with using magic to "clean" Carpet, Saiger, Erik, Lockhart for example.
Me?
I prefer to grind away on commercial with a Cimex and post pad the gooey areas with a 175 when needed.
OPs with spray ahead systems and I don't get along. YMMV.
That's what i needed to read. I already have a 175. Cimex...come to me!!!LOL
I knew I could get you to spill the beans. You tried to get me to say it yesterday.
Get a Cimex and a 175 with some pads. If the time comes you feel you have out grown the 175 and want something more aggressive do so. Meanwhile the 175 will give you a similar experience.
Mikey P
Administrator
what the heck is a Sidewinder?
Desk Jockey
Member
175
Desk Jockey
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That's cool I like to see that. Doug Rice from just down the road called me the other day and said he had used the liquid Procyon and was super impressed with his results.
Hey Matt, if it doesnt work out, ill buy it from ya..
I also have a dual speed 175, 13 incher though. Im going cimex too. Hmmm i wish i coud get ahold of those guys that have them in the garage collecting dust
I also have a dual speed 175, 13 incher though. Im going cimex too. Hmmm i wish i coud get ahold of those guys that have them in the garage collecting dust
