How often do you Dual Wand?
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rwcarpet
Supportive Member
Depends on the number of helpers. It's almost useless to dual wand if you have to drop it to move furniture often. I will almost always use it when cleaning carpet and upholstery, or cleaning big commercial jobs.
I run a 2003 Genesis 59.
I run a 2003 Genesis 59.
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
most houses are a huge waste of time to duel wand.....
dual wanding shines more in large commercial jobs............
dual wanding shines more in large commercial jobs............
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
not sure.....I have not looked at the blower plate and the book does not tell me....
Bob Savage
Member
George,
We dual wand just about every cleaning job using a #45 Roots, and have been doing so for 20 years (way before most CCer's were even thinking about it).
It definitely gives you a high level of efficiency when cleaning.
We dual wand just about every cleaning job using a #45 Roots, and have been doing so for 20 years (way before most CCer's were even thinking about it).
It definitely gives you a high level of efficiency when cleaning.
Desk Jockey
Member
Generally residential homes we single wand, if it were a very large home we might send two trucks.
Large commercial, then we will dual wand with our Prochem 805, but that pretty infrequent.
So to answer, not very often.
Large commercial, then we will dual wand with our Prochem 805, but that pretty infrequent.
So to answer, not very often.
Contemporary Carpet Clean
Member
I dont have a dual wand machine....but I would always be leary if people thought that if we dual wanded that if we got a 300-400 dollar job done in half the time....that we did it too quickly. Custys that have called other carpet cleaners have mentioned to me....well the last guy was in and out in 15-20 minutes. So some people associate how much time you spent with how good of a job you did.
Apartment complexes and commercial work...I would definately dual wand.....nobody is around usually...and as long as it looks good nobody cares on apt complexes and commerical work. Commercial work especially if someone is waiting for you to finish so they can lock up and go home!
We did a house with about 2300 sq ft of carpet on Friday...we sent 2 trucks and four guys...we moved all furniture and were done in about 2.5 hours. They were happy and still said wow that was fast...If you think about it that is 10 man hours....would a custy really want one guy at their house cleaning carpets for 10 hours???
Apartment complexes and commercial work...I would definately dual wand.....nobody is around usually...and as long as it looks good nobody cares on apt complexes and commerical work. Commercial work especially if someone is waiting for you to finish so they can lock up and go home!
We did a house with about 2300 sq ft of carpet on Friday...we sent 2 trucks and four guys...we moved all furniture and were done in about 2.5 hours. They were happy and still said wow that was fast...If you think about it that is 10 man hours....would a custy really want one guy at their house cleaning carpets for 10 hours???
Bob Savage
Member
The residential customers don't think we are getting done too quickly when they see we are doing something other cleaning companies don't do - being more efficient and producing outstanding results by dual wanding.Contemporary Carpet Clean said:
They also see how hard we are working.
In 20 years of dual wanding, not one complaint about getting done too quickly from anyone.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
Contemporary Carpet Clean said:
we should ask Ron Werner
cause I think he's actually spent that kind of time in a home.
that's not a slam on Ron, 'cause with his obsessive compulsive disorder, he's likely doing the most thorough cleaning of anyone out there .....
it just that he's shared how long it's taken him on some jobs.
and it's routinely 2 to 3 times longer than the average "above average" CC'r
five to ten times longer than the "average" CC'r
..L.T.A.
Mikey P
Administrator
Jim Martin said:
I love it when Jim is wrong.
It's not often but he is dead wrong here.
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
Mikey P said:
I love it when Jim is wrong.
It's not often but he is dead wrong here.[/quote:3stiizug]
pull up to home...one guy grabs vacuum and starts at the far end of the house....vacuuming and putting what ever needs moved on sliders......
the other guys starts setting truck up.....pulling in hoses..corner guards..... etc.........spray and clean first room that has been vacuumed..
the guy with the vacuum should be done.....he can grab the second solution line..( which was brought in and laid in place during the set up ) and start pre-spraying/scrubbing the next area....
from here it is just a game of leap frog...guy with wand is done in room...he moves to next area that has dwelled and is ready to clean....guy that is pre-spraying starts grooming area the guy with the wand just finished..tabbing anything that had to be moved.......stacking or re-setting corner guards....
get this well orchestrated and worked into your system to fit your needs.....it will be rare you pull in 2 vacuum lines.....
for me this was 10 times more efficient and was the better way to go on 95% of the homes we have down here.....
Art Kelley
Supportive Member
Jim Martin said:
I love it when Jim is wrong.
It's not often but he is dead wrong here.[/quote:83zfn8fs]
pull up to home...one guy grabs vacuum and starts at the far end of the house....vacuuming and putting what ever needs moved on sliders......
the other guys starts setting truck up.....pulling in hoses..corner guards..... etc.........spray and clean first room that has been vacuumed..
the guy with the vacuum should be done.....he can grab the second solution line..( which was brought in and laid in place during the set up ) and start pre-spraying/scrubbing the next area....
from here it is just a game of leap frog...guy with wand is done in room...he moves to next area that has dwelled and is ready to clean....guy that is pre-spraying starts grooming area the guy with the wand just finished..tabbing anything that had to be moved.......stacking or re-setting corner guards....
get this well orchestrated and worked into your system to fit your needs.....it will be rare you pull in 2 vacuum lines.....
for me this was 10 times more efficient and was the better way to go on 95% of the homes we have down here.....[/quote:83zfn8fs]
IF I ever hired a helperboy we would dual wand. But then I would need a dual wand TM. Maybe Sapphire Scientific's 870SS. The last few years I had a helper was in the 80's and we put two Vac11s into the back of the Pinto or Vega wagons (whichever was running) and would set up like Jim said; start up the other steam cleaner after all the other details were attended to. We would REALLY make time running two machines at once.
Desk Jockey
Member
I agree with Jim, unless you have additional labor to move furnishings and precondition then one tool continously running is going to beat two tools that have to stop wanding to do those things.
3-man crew for dual wanding?
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
Mikey P said:
Doc Holliday said:
roro
Member
Doc Holliday said:
That's how Ron Curtis regularly did it in large homes with the 3rd guy sometimes also doing upholstery.
roro
steve frasier
Supportive Member
every chance I get with HAT V
3 bedroom single level ranch, not to often unless some type of upholstery is involved or the house is big and split up. I will get tired of standing around and pull in hose just to do a living room
2 or split level always
agree
if we don't dual wand we find the other standing around and arguing about the other being a wand hog, that is even after moving fans, blocking& tabbing, etc
You really something other than a hydroforce to prespray with and better helper
3 bedroom single level ranch, not to often unless some type of upholstery is involved or the house is big and split up. I will get tired of standing around and pull in hose just to do a living room
2 or split level always
agree
if we don't dual wand we find the other standing around and arguing about the other being a wand hog, that is even after moving fans, blocking& tabbing, etc
You really something other than a hydroforce to prespray with and better helper
