I may need to take an IICRC course...

[Mikey P]

As Lee Pemberton's (new) ShareHolder Representative it could be seen as a show of good measure if not faith..



IICRC Shareholders (association presidents/reps) and the three original founder's, main responsibility is electing the members for the board of directors, which in essence could dictate the future of how the IICRC plots its course.

Current shareholders:


Carpet & Fabricare Institute (CFI)

Carpet & Rug Institute of Illinois (CRCII)

Canadian Flooring, Cleaning, & Restoration Association (CFCRA)

Low Moisture Carpet Cleaning Association (LMCCA)

Midwest Cleaning and Restoration Association (MCRA)

Mid-South Professional Cleaners Association (MSPCA)

National Carpet Cleaners Association (NCCA)

New England Institute of Restoration & Cleaning (NEIRC)

New York Rug Cleaners Institute (NYRCI)

Professional Association of Cleaning and Restoration (PACR)

Professional Cleaning and Restoration Alliance (PCRA)

Society of Cleaning and Restoration Technicians (SCRT)

Specialised Cleaning & Restoration Industry Association (SCRIA)

Tri-State Restorers and Specialty Cleaners Association (TRSCA)

World Floor Covering Association (WFCA)

Darrel Paulson

Lee Pemberton

Rodney Paulson

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Now personally, I think owners of educational forums are far more in tune with the industry than the majority of these association leaders and idiots such as myself, Rob, Courtney, Damon and Ashley and Joel should be apart of this, if so inclined.......

 

[Mikey P]

the silence is deafening....

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I think the term is mournful silence.....


Not for you, but for the instructor who will be called upon to endure you

Seriously, in due respect to my father and his intense loyalty to an organization he has been with for 46 years, the exam is very 1990's in content. To their credit, many instructors "modernize" the presentation, but the exam has little about polyester and triexta and way too much about stain resistant nylon.

 

[Desk Jockey]

the silence is deafening....

I think those association leaders have put plenty of time into building businesses that can operate while they are away. To be in those positions takes time away from your day to day operation but that's what they aspired to do.

Your list looks like owner ops. Is that really what they would want or are capable of committing to do? Your impact is probably greater here running the forums.

I think the snails pace of change and all the political bs would drive you crazy.

 

[hogjowl]

I don’t understand the point of this thread

 

[Trip Moses]

You could neuter your forum the way the others did. Don’t express your personal interest, and you'd be right in there.

 

[Jimmy L]

Send me $50 and be a part of my association

For one year

 

[Mikey P]

I don’t understand the point of this thread

The point is not me taking a course that I could or should be teaching, in order to calm naysayers who may (will) have issue with my presence on a board of relatively un-disruptive, sure count me in, whatever is good for the greater good sort of people..


Lee did not elect to add me to the group because of what I'm not...





IMO the IICRC needs to do the following:

Not run the whole organization for the benefit of the instructors and BOD, who need the income to live out their elderly years on. But rather for the good of us carpet cleaners who want to train ourselves and our employees as easily and cheaply as possible and more importantly, for the good of the home owner who hires us.

To address and acknowledge the input of us online education providers. (forum and FB page owners)

To dramatically hip up their current courses. New chemistry, tools and methods should be part of the standards.

Not be associated in anyway with the CRI.

Make getting recertified as easy as a short but difficult online test.

Put on their own events and not be a platinum sponsor of the very show that screwed them just a few years ago.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I think the courses are still far too technical focused. Not to talk down but cleaning is not that tough. What most cleaners need the most help with is business practices. Managing, Marketing maintaining a steady flow of work.

We can have the biggest, baddest, newest equipment but it won't do you a lick of good with no work.

Understanding that what you're netting, not grossing is what counts. SFS type classes need to be available to help keep good cleaners cleaning.

 

[Mikey P]

Managing, Marketing maintaining a steady flow of work

That's a whole other class Richard and certainly not a set of topics for the employees being sent to a course.

 

[Mikey P]

a Do You Have What It Takes To Be A Service Business Owner course should absolutely be offered, especially at their events and online.

 

[Mikey P]

How is Dennis Klager as an instructor?

He's teaching the CCT in Reno this month...

 

[John Olson]

Mikey come out here next week. 9-10th

 

[John Olson]

Shawn is teaching and we will even put you up at the house. You can snuggle with Shawn

 

[Mikey P]

does your new shop have a third bathroom choice?

 

[John Olson]

does your new shop have a third bathroom choice?

Everyone is treated the same here. We just have Bathrooms and as long as you dont pee on the seat or the floor you dont have to go use the bushes with the dogs

 

[Cleanworks]

Send me $50 and be a part of my association

For one year

Is that all the kkk charges now?

 

[Matt Middleton]

It would be difficult to beat Jon Dons sfs for content and relevance.

 

[Desk Jockey]

It would be difficult to beat Jon Dons sfs for content and relevance.

No and I wouldn't suggest to try. However I would suggest that if you want to improve the cleaners bottom line, it begins and ends not with technical skills or tricks. It means classes nobody likes or wants to take.

If your tooth is aching, the dentist is your salvation. You don't want to go, but the pain won't go away until you get it fixed.

No tool, rotovac brush head, crb, swivel wand or peroxide is going to bring you more business and keep it coming. It's going to be business skills.

Why then is JonDon the only one teaching it? Shouldn't the IICRC be shoving it down your throats? Most cleaners need these skills to varying degrees. All cleaners would benefit if they would only attend, should they come available.

It's either that or $600.00 for 2 hours with Checkmate.

 

[Cleanworks]

No and I wouldn't suggest to try. However I would suggest that if you want to improve the cleaners bottom line, it begins and ends not with technical skills or tricks. It means classes nobody likes or wants to take.

If your tooth is aching, the dentist is your salvation. You don't want to go, but the pain won't go away until you get it fixed.

No tool, rotovac brush head, crb, swivel wand or peroxide is going to bring you more business and keep it coming. It's going to be business skills.

Why then is JonDon the only one teaching it? Shouldn't the IICRC be shoving it down your throats? Most cleaners need these skills to varying degrees. All cleaners would benefit if they would only attend, should they come available.

It's either that or $600.00 for 2 hours with Checkmate.

What a lot of cleaners need as well, is hands on training. Learn how to set up your truck or portable, learn how to prespray, proper wand techniques, etc.

 

[Desk Jockey]

What a lot of cleaners need as well, is hands on training. Learn how to set up your truck or portable, learn how to prespray, proper wand techniques, etc.

If you have no work, what good will that do.

I think that it should be addressed at the time of the sale. Not a class on hose management.

 

[Matt Middleton]

No and I wouldn't suggest to try. However I would suggest that if you want to improve the cleaners bottom line, it begins and ends not with technical skills or tricks. It means classes nobody likes or wants to take.

If your tooth is aching, the dentist is your salvation. You don't want to go, but the pain won't go away until you get it fixed.

No tool, rotovac brush head, crb, swivel wand or peroxide is going to bring you more business and keep it coming. It's going to be business skills.

Why then is JonDon the only one teaching it? Shouldn't the IICRC be shoving it down your throats? Most cleaners need these skills to varying degrees. All cleaners would benefit if they would only attend, should they come available.

It's either that or $600.00 for 2 hours with Checkmate.

DITTO!

 

[Cleanworks]

If you have no work, what good will that do.

I think that it should be addressed at the time of the sale. Not a class on hose management.

What good would it do if you got all these customers but didn't understand how to use a wand? I see it often. I think a marketing class is a great idea but I've gone to courses where new carpet cleaners have passed the tests, gotten their certification and still don't have a clue what they're doing.

 

[Desk Jockey]

As long as they sell portables there will always be idiots

 

[Cleanworks]

As long as they sell portables there will always be idiots

Says the janitor

 

[Hack Attack]

What good would it do if you got all these customers but didn't understand how to use a wand? I see it often. I think a marketing class is a great idea but I've gone to courses where new carpet cleaners have passed the tests, gotten their certification and still don't have a clue what they're doing.

Yep my wrt course 3 franchise guys who had worked less than 2 wks cleaning were taking the course to be flood techs and never seen 1