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Same cost?

Its no secret the Silver Solution and ChemMax's "LST" are made by the same company...


there is some whispering going on about their similarities so lets do this...


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LST is a liquid/sludge designed for use in soaking tubs or used as a shampoo through a 175/Cimex in a wash pit. The wide mouth jug is used to facilitate using a scoop as it doesn't readily pour out.

LST is 6 to 8 ounce a gallon. Cost is $40 a gallon. SS is $100 a gallon and is 1 to 2 ounces per...

LST uses different Fluorocarbons and far less of them

LST and Silver Solution will work equally on light soil situations but SS will outperform LST in heavy soil, and leave less residue

Both share the same SDS legally but ingredients are not balanced equally between the two and nor do they need to be to share the same SDS

This stuff has been around the 70's and was an Ed York fave.
Yep you nailed it.
We knew when we released the product that people would feel that they had unlocked the mysteries of the universe and say things such as it is just this or just that.
But there is differences.

We have more products coming out soon as well. Our CLO2 deodorizer where we worked with a completely different manufacturer.

Thunder pree spray, alkaline rinse and VLM cleaner(non-film forming) ph8 Also can be used as a additive for silver solution

Lightning alkaline pre-spray for more where more aggression is necessary ph10.5

Rain Which of course is our acid rinse agent It's designed to PH4 it can handle a lot of tasks were you normally be afraid to tactile the fiber type
 
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Yep you nailed it.
We knew when we released the product that people would feel that they had unlocked the mysteries of the universe and say things such as it is just this or just that.
But there is differences.

We have more products coming out soon as well. Our CLO2 deodorizer where we worked with a completely different manufacturer.

Thunder pree spray, alkaline rinse and VLM cleaner(non-film forming) ph8 Also can be used as a additive for silver solution

Lightning alkaline pre-spray for more where more aggression is necessary ph10.5

Rain Which of course is our acid rinse agent It's designed to PH4 it can handle a lot of tasks were you normally be afraid to tactile the fiber type
Can you spell out the differencesbetween silver solution and lst? What makes silver solution so expensive.
 
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Can you spell out the differencesbetween silver solution and lst? What makes silver solution so expensive.
Fluorocarbons are incredibly expensive The more you use the more it will cost
And the higher quality ones cost more
We had absolutely no intention of coming out with a cost-effective product first
We wanted to make the most effective product
 
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Fluorocarbons are incredibly expensive The more you use the more it will cost
And the higher quality ones cost more
We had absolutely no intention of coming out with a cost-effective product first
We wanted to make the most effective product
It's just at $100 a gallon, you may be pricing yourself out of the market. Even with a high dilution ratio. Translates probably $150 a gallon for Canadians including the exchange rate, shipping, duties and taxes.
 
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It's just at $100 a gallon, you may be pricing yourself out of the market. Even with a high dilution ratio. Translates probably $150 a gallon for Canadians including the exchange rate, shipping, duties and taxes.
Yes if not more
But I totally understand It's not going to be the right fit for everybody
 

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4 quarts makes one gallon.


holy crap Ron.
You miss the point Mike. 4 quarts at $25 each is $100. 1 gallon of LST is $39. I'm all for new products that make cleaning easier and I trust products from Chemax, I'm just saying it's a little pricey for the average carpet cleaner. Even for the premium cleaner.
 

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