Ideas to heat water in water pond over-night?

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Does anyone have a method of preheating the water in their water pond overnight so when they start in the morning, the feed water is already warm?
 

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Have you seen how an Aerotec works?


To my knowledge they're the only truck map manufacturer that preheats water as you drive around but certainly not overnight
 

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It makes sense in a pto unit in the winter. If you can start with water that is already 80 degrees plus, your heat exchangers will be more efficient. That's the difference in using a customers water in colder weather. Your overall temperature will be lower than what it is in the summer. Helps just to park in a heated garage overnight.
 

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Butler preheats the water as you drive around.
It preheats the water in the heat exchanger yes, but it doesn’t heat the water in the 110 gallon onboard fresh water tank

Real question...

Sustained high heat in the HX doesn't affect "things" on a long drive? How does that work? Does it use the vans t-stat?



Would/does the water being hot all the time affect scale in the hx?
 

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Your truck thermostat and fan controls the high end of the radiator fluid temp, so the Butler HX doesn’t exceed roughly 200 degrees. it’s simply a T’‘d off loop from the water pump that circulates the radiator fluid through the HX and returns


as far as scale, I suppose if you descale regularly , it’s not an issue


I descale once every 3 years or so and get 220 plus heat consistently so I’d say it’s a nonissue
 
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why? I start the machine, walk to the wand, trigger the wand for 20 seconds and have heat to the point I cant touch the wand valve.

and yes, I have a water pond
 

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I have used LP heat for 35 years and would not use any other type of heat. With LP heat there are no added restrictions in the discharge side of the vacuum blower to create more heat, so you can take advantage of all of the CFM's being produced.

I used a Little Giant 3-HT for 12 years and had good, consistent heat. Then I designed a dual wand truckmount, and needed to supply 2 wands, each with #6 flow (12 flow total). Even the 4HT from LG was not going to get it. So I purchased a pressure washing LP heater (240,000 BTU), with auto-pilot, and a timer style flow switch which I patented, which gives even heat through an entire job, large or small.

I get blistering heat to 2 wands all day long, totaling a #12 flow. I can even use the 2" titanium wand with a #8 flow as one of the dual wands, and the other wand a #6 flow.

Just sayin'
 
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sad if they're that good that no one picked up the patent, produces them and pays you a royalty
 

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I prefer to use a higher flow than what my 370 is designed for, which means the water isn't as hot as I would like it in some cases.
I've been thinking of a way to preheat the water when needed. It might not be a wise modification in hotter climates, but doable in SF.
I'll post when it's done.
 

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I prefer to use a higher flow than what my 370 is designed for, which means the water isn't as hot as I would like it in some cases.
I've been thinking of a way to preheat the water when needed. It might not be a wise modification in hotter climates, but doable in SF.
I'll post when it's done.
Anything past a 6 flow on that is probably going to leave the carpets a little wet.
 

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Anything past a 6 flow on that is probably going to leave the carpets a little wet.
I know-- that's why I have to do more dry passes. it helps to have a sight glass on the dev pro wand.
I'm just not satisfied with 6 flow. I don't mind working slower since wearing a mask has slowed me down anyway.
 
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I disagree. Sapphire made a good choice on the blower that's on that model. 8-10flow shouldn't cause any problems with the suction that unit provides
True.
I'm running 8 flow, but I get hypnotized by the sight glass to keep extracting until almost no water is being puled out.
The water is still hot enough for most high-class residential wool carpets I clean.
 

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I was searching for a way to heat the water in the water pond since I leave my truck out all night. I recently started recirculating the water by running my high pressure pump back to the water pond. It takes roughly ten minutes of recirc-ing to get some warm temps in the water pond. Having 80-100 gallons of warm water in the tank to start the night helps the heater keep up.
 
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I was searching for a way to heat the water in the water pond since I leave my truck out all night. I recently started recirculating the water by running my high pressure pump back to the water pond. It takes roughly ten minutes of recirc-ing to get some warm temps in the water pond. Having 80-100 gallons of warm water in the tank to start the night helps the heater keep up.
Did you hit zero last night too Dan? Glad the wind isn't blowing.
 

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You could always try a stock pond heater. It won't make it hot but it won't allow it to get cold. Submersible might work better than floating. Tractor Supply, Orschlens Farm, Menards, Amazon.

It always kept the horses water warm no matter what the temp was outside. Of course your electrical bill reflected the usage too.
 

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