If only they sold these in 2001...

[Mikey P]

quite possibly the ultimate truck for the multi service OO..

 

[Numero Uno]

Butler is unparreled in all area's...
To this day when I see slide in or huge trucks...
I say dumb ass hackers...
That's mindset...Here...
I know there are many proven slide in's.
Many underwent changes to get them to run perfect...
Butlers were born perfect an only tweak when needed...
Og Butler Boy-1979 an on...
I'm waiting for day when they mate the implant electric to a electric makes plenty of juice.
Electric van...
Then omfg...
There goes the van wear an tear,an profits on roi.
Climb...
Sooner or later some new Steroid type Bane/Butler will be born.
An that inventor will sweep the Industry...
It's bound to happen...
Smaller footprint in van as well more room overall...

 

[Numero Uno]

These new battery operated floor fans are growing also...
Dual usage...
Makes sense since many emergencies are out of power...
Or when portables are using most of the juice...

 

[Cleanworks]

quite possibly the ultimate truck for the multi service OO..

$100,000?

 

[Mikey P]

Most likely.

 

[Dolly Llama]

If only they sold these in 2001​

what would of happened?
you'd dual wand with a #4 blower?
or fall in love with Oh-Pee sooner?

..L.T.A.

 

[Mikey P]

If only they sold these in 2001​

what would of happened?
you'd dual wand with a #4 blower?
or fall in love with Oh-Pee sooner?

..L.T.A.

You've become more predictable than Marty.

 

[Dolly Llama]

You've become more predictable than Marty.

no, YOU have
like shifting sand

..L.T.A.

 

[Mikey P]

Or maybe it's just your reading comprehension Larry ..


I've said it countless times that I'm VLMing maybe 15% of my residential, 20 in a good month when it's raining..


I'm sorry that you're cleaning business didn't have the same ratios of customers with perfectly clean carpet and two spots, but don't blame me for your failures chief.

My butler was a good truck mount but the GMC ownership experience totally blew and I couldn't wait to get rid of it.


Dual wanding worked great for us for about 10 years but now both locations are working at a much slower pace.

Plenty of room in the back of that mini Butler vortex for hard surface gear and OP machine and thousands and thousands and thousands of microfiber pads.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Dual wanding worked great for us for about 10 years

your biz model would of changed "if" those were available in '01?


..L.T.A.

 

[Desk Jockey]

We used our Butler in a box as our commercial truck.

Not only was it racked out to carry enough water damage equipment to do several small losses it also had VLM equipment on it. Cimex's, Orbots.

Large 210 recovery tanks and 200 fresh and a Zipper Spinner.

Not as nimble as the Cab over but it probably rode better than cab overs tend to.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Or maybe it's just your reading comprehension Larry ..


I've said it countless times that I'm VLMing maybe 15% of my residential, 20 in a good month when it's raining..


I'm sorry that you're cleaning business didn't have the same ratios of customers with perfectly clean carpet and two spots, but don't blame me for your failures chief.

My butler was a good truck mount but the GMC ownership experience totally blew and I couldn't wait to get rid of it.


Dual wanding worked great for us for about 10 years but now both locations are working at a much slower pace.

Plenty of room in the back of that mini Butler vortex for hard surface gear and OP machine and thousands and thousands and thousands of microfiber pads.

LOL
do you fell better now?
good

now let me get this off my chest.

this board started about being the best.
WGCC'er an all that.
we weren't about lowering standards

now it's OK to do halfass work on res if it's "clean" ....or raining(???)


your big mouth over 20 years proclaiming everyone's a hack if they don't doit like Mike from mega mounts to rotocrap RE's, to lil peedder CRBs, to $1800 dollar wands, to convincing a Stan franchise biz model he should go "premium" service .... et al

coupled with your fickle shifting sand every few years humping something new to now if it's "clean" who GAF if you spray 'n wipe res .
..the corners, closets and 'cept for a spot or two ain't dirty anyway .
so lower them standards in the interest of ea$y

I get wanting to show an advertiser some love
(what this thread was about)
But I don't think "you understand" how 20 years of your over the top big mouth and shifting sand changes makes you look like a shill at best and hypocrite at worst

That is all
carry on "Chief"


..L.T.A.

 

[hogjowl]

Amen

 

[Mikey P]

The Close Minded Society has spoken.

Send me back to 2001 with todays mindset and heres what id do.

Fill THAT truck with lots of hard surface gear, a wheels down OP that I brought back work me in my time machine and a "charge more, clean less" shitty carpet mind set.


Fvck the whole multi truck/ dual wand game, "more" is just more bullshit to deal with. In retrospect all it did was kept our family busy. Far better money was available had I stayed single op and gone top dollar.

But ( temporary) injuries to myself dictated the moves to get help and branch out.

Should have just took the 6 weeks off.

Let me let you in on a secret Larry and Marty, all those shithole section 8s and military dumps you think that you're getting 100% clean with your truckmounts, you aint.

You may be getting 60- 70% of the soil out. If either of you had spent any time in a rug wash pit you'd know that by now. You left gallons of piss and buckets of generated bacteria behind for the next families to innocently enjoy.


Dont bother telling me about how great your wanding style was, you only mastered how to hide the streaking and wicking, both of which are clues of what you were not getting out, and no your 360i isnt either..

I find it hilarious how bothered you are that I'm OPing resi carpets that are 1000's time cleaner than your finished product from your glory days were, from the get go.

Talk about hypocrisy....


Probably just the guilt speaking.


Amen.

 

[hogjowl]

^ probably

 

[Willy P]

 

[Dolly Llama]

You may be getting 60- 70% of the soil out.

I'm certainly aware of that.
so lets forget about doing the best we can.
If that's no longer the focus, say so and rock-on

It's that's what it's about, start spraying bug juice with the janitors too .
I hear there's a chit-ton of profit in it

..L.T.A.

 

[hogjowl]

The profit is in stroking the advertisers

 

[Dolly Llama]

The profit is in stroking the advertisers

nothing wrong with that.

I believe his heart's in the right place.
(or I'd of been gone 15 years ago)

I do think it possible though, the altitude of the bicycle seat on his high horse may effect the oxygen levels to his brAin

...L.T.A

 

[Mikey P]

I sorry your failed cleaning business has left you so bitter.


Maybe if you had gone in my direction, you'd be ale to enjoy the freedoms (and clean homes) that I enjoy.

 

[Mikey P]

I'm certainly aware of that.
so lets forget about doing the best we can.
If that's no longer the focus, say so and rock-on

It's that's what it's about, start spraying bug juice with the janitors too .
I hear there's a chit-ton of profit in it

..L.T.A.

The "best we can" is often walking on the job, something I know you and Marty don't or didnt do believing that your enzyme product of the week had a morality clause built into it.

And **** the two of you for insinuating that I would do a low moisture method when not appropriate for the sake of cuddling up to an advertiser.

 

[encapman]

To Larry and others...

We're talking about cleaning carpet / which is made up of short strands of (typically) synthetic fiber. Let's put the truckmount testosterone to the side for a moment... A torrent of water is not always required to clean modern carpet. In fact if a GOOD low moisture system is being used, there's less need for HWE.

It's true that the rat nasty's will still require a good flushing. Running copious amounts of water through the fiber is a terrific way to unload the carpet of a heavy soil load. But keep in mind what we're doing with HWE... it's a matter of DILUTION. Let's say we start off with a hypothetical soil load of 50%. We pre-spray the carpet, then we squirt water into the carpet, and we suck off as much of the soiled solution as we possibly can. But what percentage of soil is still left in the carpet? Zero? I don't think so. There will be a reduction of soil content because we've diluted the soil with water and sucked a percentage of it away. However, at some point, we stop wanding the carpet and say - that looks good - job done. And that's great! Yet we can't say that we've reached a 0% soil load with HWE. Thinking it will accomplish that is a panacea.

That's where a good low moisture system can augment HWE. Maintaining the carpet with a well executed low moisture cleaning system can provide a way to keep everyone smiling. Call it "cutting corners" if it makes you feel better about your truckmount. But the truth is that MANY successful contractors are doing awesome work using low moisture methods and their customers are loving the results. And I'd expect the work that Mikey's doing falls into that category.

 

[Mikey P]

Awesome post Rick..

And in many cases the "best we can" is to not create a cesspool in an already far too contaminated carpet by thinking we're going to extract it clean with our boiling truck mounts.

Going over and over and over regardless of chemicals pressure heat and flow you're just making matters worse underneath the carpet and if the homeowner continues to live there and just wanted to look and smell better and this can be easily accomplished with a low moisture process that would dry in under an hour and not cause the intense bacteria growth.


But praise the Lord, those people don't call me anymore.

 

[hogjowl]

 

[Mikey P]

"if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"..

 

[Trip Moses]

To Larry and others...

We're talking about cleaning carpet / which is made up of short strands of (typically) synthetic fiber. Let's put the truckmount testosterone to the side for a moment... A torrent of water is not always required to clean modern carpet. In fact if a GOOD low moisture system is being used, there's less need for HWE.

It's true that the rat nasty's will still require a good flushing. Running copious amounts of water through the fiber is a terrific way to unload the carpet of a heavy soil load. But keep in mind what we're doing with HWE... it's a matter of DILUTION. Let's say we start off with a hypothetical soil load of 50%. We pre-spray the carpet, then we squirt water into the carpet, and we suck off as much of the soiled solution as we possibly can. But what percentage of soil is still left in the carpet? Zero? I don't think so. There will be a reduction of soil content because we've diluted the soil with water and sucked a percentage of it away. However, at some point, we stop wanding the carpet and say - that looks good - job done. And that's great! Yet we can't say that we've reached a 0% soil load with HWE. Thinking it will accomplish that is a panacea.

That's where a good low moisture system can augment HWE. Maintaining the carpet with a well executed low moisture cleaning system can provide a way to keep everyone smiling. Call it "cutting corners" if it makes you feel better about your truckmount. But the truth is that MANY successful contractors are doing awesome work using low moisture methods and their customers are loving the results. And I'd expect the work that Mikey's doing falls into that category.

I’ve got to order some pads today

 

[Dolly Llama]

But the truth is that MANY successful contractors are doing awesome work using low moisture methods

Chit, Rick there's plenty blow 'n go outfits making a bundle too.
Stan, Hogopian, and other reputable "value priced" outfits.
But if you consider that and VLM "awesome" quality, I question what you know

Hell, Greg Cole made a million with an army of porty in Pinto subs

nevertheless, I have no bone to pick with you.
You have products that guys can make money with.


.L.T.A.

 

[steve_64]

Awesome post Rick..

And in many cases the "best we can" is to not create a cesspool in an already far too contaminated carpet by thinking we're going to extract it clean with our boiling truck mounts.

Going over and over and over regardless of chemicals pressure heat and flow you're just making matters worse underneath the carpet and if the homeowner continues to live there and just wanted to look and smell better and this can be easily accomplished with a low moisture process that would dry in under an hour and not cause the intense bacteria growth.


But praise the Lord, those people don't call me anymore.

After being at the glass house I can see how it would be very appropriate to bring in a shiny new buffer and pads to clean carpet.
The thought of dragging ugly hoses through the house on very expensive floors and stairs to clean with HWE just wouldn't. Look as good. And would be over kill.

Fortunately there is no carpet. Alpaca rugs and other fancy things only. All furniture and rugs protected by another company. I overheard some of the conversation.

 

[Mikey P]

Chit, Rick there's plenty blow 'n go outfits making a bundle too.
Stan, Hogopian, and other reputable "value priced" outfits.
But if you consider that and VLM "awesome" quality, I question what you know

Hell, Greg Cole made a million with an army of porty in Pinto subs

nevertheless, I have no bone to pick with you.
You have products that guys can make money with.


.L.T.A.

All these opinions of a modern machine, chems and 2 pad method you've never seen or done.



ZzZzzzzzzZZzzzzzzzzzz.z


Ive lost count how many OP machines I either bought, was loaned or given that all got the heave ho within a few tries.

Too vibey, too falsaparty, too wont hold the paddy, too hard to turn righty and or lefty..



The new TOPS machines are the F'n bomb.

 

[Dolly Llama]

All these opinions of a modern machine, chems and 2 pad method you've never seen or done.

yeah, that must it

..L.T.A.