Install Question

[Charlie Lyman]

When installing CGD, do the installers use seam tape to join the seams, or do they just glue it down like the rest of the carpet?

 

[Carpet Cleaning Fool]

CGD? for seams you apply the adhesive to the concrete using a notched trowel just like the rest of the floor.

 

[Harry Myers]

Apply the adhesive according to backing specifications. If it is an action back use 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 u notch trowel. Glue the floor . Dont forget the most important part use a seam sealer. If I use a latexed based glue . I like to use an acryllic latex sealer like weld loc made by orcon. Lowes or any carpet supply place sells it.

 

[Charlie Lyman]

cool, thanks.

 

[sweendogg]

Woa there people.. ON CGD.. action back or even unitary back.. yes seam seal after cutting but you need to use a commercial seam sealer as well. The process should include pre cutting the seams, troweling out the glue under both pieces to be seamed, lay one piece in and roll, and then apply a small bead of commercial seam bond like roberts 8015 along the edge of the carpet then slowly work the other side into the seam using a kicker to adjust and butt the seams together and working them together with a carpet tractor.

 

[Scott Rogers]

Its been a quite few years since I have installed this stuff. but there is/was a glue down carpet that speced out to be hot taped seamed with foil tape. It was called Monobond or double stick. put it in a few schools and a small casino in socal.

you full spread glued with multipurpose adhesive a high density foam pad the full spread glued the carpet to the pad using foil tape at the seams.

I doubt it held up like manufactures claimed it would, but what does.

And off topic but since it was mentioned above. unitary backed carpet is the absolute worst carpet ever designed period.

 

[sweendogg]

I'd argue that fact. Properly installed unitary back carpet with the proper adhesive and seam bond, will last alot longer than action backed carpet in heavy traffic and areas with lots of moisture. The proof is in the pudding. We switched the University we do work for over to this because the action back kept delaminating... it didn't help that they clean in house and soak it down but, it wasn't standing up to the traffic. Now I'm talking about Bigelow's unitary back versus another company.. But they have had zero problems in the last 8-10 years where they have had it installed. And they are harder on carpet than any other place of business we have encountered. The other businesses that we have worked for have had the same success. It may come back to if it is intalled correctly and if the seams are properly seamed and bonded. Now they are not as good as the C&A powerbond products or any reinforced backing we are using alot of as well but that is a whole another caliber of floor covering products all together.

 

[Harry Myers]

Unitary , Hot melt or a product like or a HP Backing or even powerbond are specifically made for commercial. +1 problem when using a solvent based seam sealer it does not bond with the latex adhesive. So Orcon made a simple solution to this and made an acrylic latex adhesive for this reason. Actuall when you are using a solvent sealer with a latex adhesive if an inspector does see this he could write contamination of adhesive. Well you decide.

 

[sweendogg]

Yup that is correct.. so read the installation requirements and follow accordingly..