LVT is scary..

[steve_64]

The top two have the groove I was talking about. I just don't like that look and the dirt is harder to get out.
Bottom one looks smooth but you can feel the edges just like mine at home.

 

[The Great Oz]

The hardwood floor that came with our house was that style. We replaced it because it was so hard to maintain and the grooves were too deep to sand out. Everything bad comes back when there's a new generation of buyers.

 

[Fat Mike]

The hardwood floor that came with out house was that style. We replaced it because it was so hard to maintain and the grooves were too deep to sand out. Everything bad comes back when there's a new generation of buyers.

Well the idea of beveled edges is to help replicate the wood look and feel.

Flush edges are available and imo don’t look as clean or sharp when trying to replicate the real wood look and feel

 

[steve_64]

The porcelain tile we are installing was $5.50 a sq ft. We are getting it for $3.48 I know the manager. And it will be more permanent imo.

I don't see home owners paying for the premium stuff as often. They will be switching back to cheap carpet in the long run I think.

 

[Cleanworks]

time to get into rug washing.

Rug washing seems to be stable when everything else slows down. Delivering 4 rugs today for about $700 and have 4 more to clean.

 

[Fat Mike]

The porcelain tile we are installing was $5.50 a sq ft. We are getting it for $3.48 I know the manager. And it will be more permanent imo.

I don't see home owners paying for the premium stuff as often. They will be switching back to cheap carpet in the long run I think.

Depends on subfloor. Flooring is only as good as it’s substrate, we see busted tiles and grout all the time. Also requires more maintenance to keep them clean.

Quality install with proper floor prep on LVT delivers a wonderful long lasting product.

It’s also easier on the knees, hips and back since you don’t have the sharper impact of tile or stained/epoxy cement.

Personally I like Saltillo or stained concrete but they’re just harder on those joints imo

 

[KevinD]

I have seen a few problems with separations in vinyl plank but the problem is the install.

Installing vinyl plank without tap blocks is like installing carpet without a power stretcher.

 

[steve_64]

Depends on subfloor. Flooring is only as good as it’s substrate, we see busted tiles and grout all the time. Also requires more maintenance to keep them clean.

Quality install with proper floor prep on LVT delivers a wonderful long lasting product.

It’s also easier on the knees, hips and back since you don’t have the sharper impact of tile or stained/epoxy cement.

Personally I like Saltillo or stained concrete but they’re just harder on those joints imo

Yes more costly install and a harder surface. Just my preference. But as far as a replacement for carpet i like carpet and I think most people do. They are being sold on ease of maintenance I think. The apartment complexes I know of who have tried lvt are going back to carpet. Tenants tear still tear it up.

Some have said they have a hard time renting with LVT also. They just use cheaper carpet.

 

[Fat Mike]

Yes more costly install and a harder surface. Just my preference. But as far as a replacement for carpet i like carpet and I think most people do. They are being sold on ease of maintenance I think. The apartment complexes I know of who have tried lvt are going back to carpet. Tenants tear still tear it up.

Some have said they have a hard time renting with LVT also. They just use cheaper carpet.

Apt Rentals I would use all tile all day every day. Unless an upscale complex since your then dealing with a cleaner nicer class generally.

 

[Trip Moses]

Yes more costly install and a harder surface. Just my preference. But as far as a replacement for carpet i like carpet and I think most people do. They are being sold on ease of maintenance I think. The apartment complexes I know of who have tried lvt are going back to carpet. Tenants tear still tear it up.

Some have said they have a hard time renting with LVT also. They just use cheaper carpet.

Same here

 

[Mikey P]

I have larger dogs and hardwood would not hold up the way I want it to look. We have it installed as display in one of our showrooms and I really like the way it performs even with a lot of traffic.

Should have got Acacia


These folks have a Boxer and on their second Bulldog and hardly a scratch

 

[Small town janitorial]

I like LVT, and will put some in my dining room, kitchen, and bathrooms. But it still does require more cleaning than most homeowners recognize. Take a white towell with some cleaner on it and wipe a little bit. The floor you thought was clean is filthy. I love it in our commercial janitorial accounts. Hides dirt really well.

 

[sassyotto]

I just had a customer ask me if I have seen more people install hard floors. I said yes, most new homes have more hard floors than what they built years ago. But the thing is, there are still TONS of existing homes with a lot of carpet in them. As I only have a few years left of cleaning carpet, I have no interest in expanding into hard floors since I already book two weeks out. I will faze out long before carpet does.

Funny thing though. There is NO rug cleaning plant or blind cleaning company within 100 miles of me with lots of potential business. There is SO much opportunity.

 

[steve_64]

Depends on subfloor. Flooring is only as good as it’s substrate, we see busted tiles and grout all the time. Also requires more maintenance to keep them clean.

Quality install with proper floor prep on LVT delivers a wonderful long lasting product.

It’s also easier on the knees, hips and back since you don’t have the sharper impact of tile or stained/epoxy cement.

Personally I like Saltillo or stained concrete but they’re just harder on those joints imo

Original in 56 and not even an issue with the grout let alone the tile. Hate to lose it but the wall on the left is com I g out. Thinking of putting in heated floors too.

 

[Loren Egland]

We just today had our offer to buy a home in Angels Camp accepted. There is no carpet in the house. (Yeah!) It is all tile and hickory wood floors.

 

[Mikey P]

PGE will love it too....

 

[Bob Savage]

We recently did all new flooring in our rental house - LVP in all the high traffic areas, and carpet in the 3 bedrooms and the living room.

The carpet is all isolated so you can just replace 1 area if it gets trashed as the carpet does not flow throughout the house.

If I replace the carpet I purchase a remnant roll, and new high-density pad for comfort (if necessary because of pet damage). The non-refundable pet deposit always covers the cost to replace.

The LVP is also waterproof so if there is a flood, it is easy to dry the floor with no damage occurring.

 

[Fat Mike]

We recently did all new flooring in our rental house - LVP in all the high traffic areas, and carpet in the 3 bedrooms and the living room.

The carpet is all isolated so you can just replace 1 area if it gets trashed as the carpet does not flow throughout the house.

If I replace the carpet I purchase a remnant roll, and new high-density pad for comfort (if necessary because of pet damage). The non-refundable pet deposit always covers the cost to replace.

The LVP is also waterproof so if there is a flood, it is easy to dry the floor with no damage occurring.

If the edges are sealed properly otherwise floor is getting pulled due to trapped moisture

 

[The Great Oz]

Well the idea of beveled edges is to help replicate the wood look and feel.

Flush edges are available and imo don’t look as clean or sharp when trying to replicate the real wood look and feel

Maybe the real wood look and feel of an old country cabin, otherwise bevels just replicate the look and feel of engineered wood planks.

No bevels or tiny gaps = real wood floor.

 

[Dolly Llama]

my understanding ….all factory pre-finsihed "real" wood flooring will have a bevel or micro-V-groove due to the difficulty of holding/keeping exacting tolerances of wood products

several thousands difference in thickness isn't noticeable with V-grove
With square edge, it can be noticeable

Sq edge flooring "laid right" gets installed, then sanded smooth , then finished on-site


..L.T.A.

 

[Nomad74]

my understanding ….all factory pre-finsihed "real" wood flooring will have a bevel or micro-V-groove due to the difficulty of holding/keeping exacting tolerances of wood products

several thousands difference in thickness isn't noticeable with V-grove
With square edge, it can be noticeable

Sq edge flooring "laid right" gets installed, then sanded smooth , then finished on-site


..L.T.A.

When does the drywall go down?

 

[Dolly Llama]

LOL...you need a hUg?


..L.T.A.

 

[Nomad74]

LOL...you need a hUg?


..L.T.A.

Well, I did spill ALL my curley fries on the floor of my van. So Yes, I need a hug.

 

[Meter Maid]

I get LVT(P) is nice and can be of high quality, but my question is...

Do you think people are about done with residential carpet? I rarely talk to residential customers who are interested in buying more carpet, so I'm wondering if we should start shifting our business models for those of us who do mostly residential jobs.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I get LVT(P) is nice and can be of high quality, but my question is...

Do you think people are about done with residential carpet? I rarely talk to residential customers who are interested in buying more carpet, so I'm wondering if we should start shifting our business models for those of us who do mostly residential jobs.

I don't have numbers, but I find myself overwhelmed at the amount of carpet cleaners, of all people, who no longer have carpet in their homes, or buy homes that do not have carpet in them.

I think the dual pressure of "hard floors as a style" and "dog and cat urine factories" are rapidly creating a larger market for hard floors and rugs.

Make sure your customers see what a difference you can make on their LVT floors, and be sure to remind them that you can flush the urine from their rugs which are, in many cases, simply highly priced and decorative "potty patches"

 

[steve_64]

I get LVT(P) is nice and can be of high quality, but my question is...

Do you think people are about done with residential carpet? I rarely talk to residential customers who are interested in buying more carpet, so I'm wondering if we should start shifting our business models for those of us who do mostly residential jobs.

I don't think so but if you are looking to grow your business you should be looking to diversify your services anyway.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Do you think people are about done with residential carpet?

no
trend is for less of it in the "living" areas, but my prediction is W2W will continue to be the mainstay in bed rooms.
and upl will continue to be mostly fabric


change biz model?
can't answer that, cause I am and always have been a pi55poor businessman .
But would maybe get a bit of education in rugs

no folks I know that have hard flooring without some kind of rugs 'n runners.
Don't have to go full Damon with a $100K "rug spa"
but knowing what rugs can be hack'd out in the home or your drive with a garden hose will be helpful


all said and done..I don't think the sky will fall.
The conscientious O/Op that's a go getter and likable will have plenty work

..L.T.A.

 

[Dolly Llama]

So Yes, I need a hug.

that one dude been begging for more than a little while now.
might give you a "tummy rub" too....


..L.T.A.

 

[Meter Maid]

To finish or not to finish LVT floors? That is the question.

In my experience, most Luxury Vinyl Tile (LVT) floors can reach their expected life cycle with very good maintenance practices set in place immediately after the installation. The 1st step in establishing best practices is to become familiar with the manufacturer’s’ maintenance specifications...

www.xlnorth.com

 

[Hack Attack]

Well, I did spill ALL my curley fries on the floor of my van. So Yes, I need a hug.

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