my apologies to Terje Brevic

[Jimmy L]

Friendships in today's economy are only worth around $5,000 anyway.

 

[joe harper]

Friendships in today's economy are only worth around $5,000 anyway.

"How many would you like to PuRcHase..?"

I will fInaNcE some of them...And "I"...have several you can LeaSe for $1.00 down... !gotcha!

:mrgreen:

 

[Royal Man]

Friendships in today's economy are only worth around $5,000 anyway.

"How many would you like to PuRcHase..?"

I will fInaNcE some of them...And "I"...have several you can LeaSe for $1.00 down... !gotcha!

:mrgreen:

I thought your girl friends charge by the hour?

 

[John LaBarbera]

The only difference between Terje & Mytee is marketing. If Terje, knew how to market (or wanted to) like Mytee, people would be all over the boards trying to get it.

In some ways you're right. The fact is, you're not much different from your competitor down the street, either. Were all in that boat. I can't say I totally understand your comment, though. Mytee employs 60 people. I don't have the luxury of not marketing. I also sell through a network of distributors. Those that build machines and work out of their garage or the third bedroom of their house don't have nearly the overhead of a Mytee. By selling through distributors, we add a dimension and conveniece that some value. We post our parts list and exploded views on the web-site for our customers. We partner with our distributors for the sake of the PCC's. If you ask me what the amps, features or any other spec's on a Mytee, I alway gladly answer those questions, no evasivness or double talk. I also pay for my marketing. Others can choose to do the same or not.

Here's the part implied by your comment that I don't understand. You say people would buy Terje's machine (and for the record, I think it is a very good machine and I like Terje as a person, also) if he marketed it so that they knew about it. You knew about it and you bought a dual vac recoil recently. Why were you not "all over it"? And you, for that matter, don't know what you got. There is not a document in the world that outlines your machine. And, if you don't agree with that last comment, post the document! Outside of that, great comment. Thanks.

John, like you, I know marketing especially online marketing very well. You can make people buy shit in a box if you know how to promote it. Mytee does a good job branding & promoting their product (marketing), my comment was in relation to that. How many employees you have or don't have, overhead, if you pay for your ads has zero to do w/ what I was referring to. While you brought this topic up, it has been proven for a fact that the smaller TM builders working out of their garage's have a much higher reliability track record on their products vs the competitor who decided to over-expand themselves.

Some people including myself think Terje's machine is much better than his competitors, that includes Mytee's. I'd buy his machine, but it was not in my budget @ the time.

What does my machine have anything to do w/ my marketing comment? Not too sure. Especially since I own several of your products, yet you keep going back to the fact I bought the other machine, never compared that one to yours. This repetitive comment from you is getting pretty old, I'm sorry I'm not your typical TMF newbie kissing your ass everytime you make a post. I know this may come of shock to you, but not everyone (other than your bf Rob) thinks your god.

Thanks, Bill.

To summarize your logic:

1) Terje's machine is better than the competition, everyone should buy it, but he doesn't market it

2) You (Bill) can't afford Terje's machine, so

3) You (Bill) bought a lesser machine instead, but don't know why (no docs) "You can make people buy shit in a box if you know how to promote it." Your words not mine.

Thank you for that persepective it makes perfect sense.

And BTW I never expected you to KMA you're too busy kissing Ed's.

 

[juniorc82]

and this is why I like this board I love that everyone here is vulnarable for a good ole azz chewin. I do kind of agree with Jon on this one. If you dont market your product or service you cant be mad if it dont sell.

 

[Padden McFadden]

I think what Bill is saying is that Terry's machine is a better product, so all thinngs being equle (marketing, cost) people who were in the market for an ETM would buy his machine over the Mytee. I think he has a point,

 

[Bill Soukoreff]

So Bill and Andy, how are you determining that Terje's machine is a better product?

 

[John LaBarbera]

I think what Bill is saying is that Terry's machine is a better product, so all thinngs being equle (marketing, cost) people who were in the market for an ETM would buy his machine over the Mytee. I think he has a point,

Here, reread it. This is what he said. What you said, may be (or not) what he meant.

"The only difference between Terje & Mytee is marketing. If Terje, knew how to market (or wanted to) like Mytee, people would be all over the boards trying to get it." Bill said it but the facts shows he doesn't really belive it. If you guys really think you're right, put your money into marketing his machine and than get repaid by commissions of his sales. Anybody can talk. Put your money where your mouth is.

To summarize what you're saying is, IF Terry lowers his price and markets his machine he'll sell more. (well duh) If that's it, you're telling the wrong persons.

Amazing how you and Bill think alike.

 

[LeeCory]

I don't really know what is going on here but I guess I have only one question

Is "Terje" in the business of selling electric truckmounts?

 

[Padden McFadden]

No John, I simply feel that you misunderstood Bills point, due to being defensive about stuff, with all the KMA statements. What I see Bill saying is that if Tery had the marketing power and the distribution that you have , you wouldn't sell to many ETm's cause his is a better machine. I feel you missed that, due to your reply about KMA and what not, and the implication that Bill should be dissmised from intellegent disscussion, cause he has a vallentine macihne. I should aslo be dissmissed case me and Bill think alike, and so on.. Just seems kinda childish, that you get to discide who can and who can't have a valid OPIONION.

BTW I bare you no mallious, and wish you well and so on and so forth.

 

[hogjowl]

Personality goes a long way.

 

[John LaBarbera]

No John, I simply feel that you misunderstood Bills point, due to being defensive about stuff, with all the KMA statements. What I see Bill saying is that if Tery had the marketing power and the distribution that you have , you wouldn't sell to many ETm's cause his is a better machine. I feel you missed that, due to your reply about KMA and what not, and the implication that Bill should be dissmised from intellegent disscussion, cause he has a vallentine macihne. I should aslo be dissmissed case me and Bill think alike, and so on.. Just seems kinda childish, that you get to discide who can and who can't have a valid OPIONION.

BTW I bare you no mallious, and wish you well and so on and so forth.

Do you see how your two positions keep changing.

First it was stated the "only difference was market"

Then, it was "marketing and price"

Now it's "marketing, price and distributors". What's next.

I don't mind anyone having an opinion. You have yours and I have mine. The issue is when an opinion is stated as a fact, but when questioned it becomes an opinion, (I think, I feel, to quote you) I summarized both of your comments (I don't see how I misunderstood) and they are saying the same "opinion", If you call that childish, okay. I can't help what you think or feel, you have to deal with that.

If you want to deal with facts, how about answering Bill S's question, instead of just ignoring it?

No malice here either. However, you may want to read a little more carefully and try to be objective.

As far as the KMA comment. while I normally would not use that expression, I was addressing Bill Martens comment that he made to me. You seemed to have missed that one. (this is what I meant by being objective)

 

[Mikey P]

You're such a drama queen John.

 

[Mikey P]

Bill, did you actually buy a Recoil set up?


really?



wowza. :roll:

 

[Desk Jockey]

Friendships in today's economy are only worth around $5,000 anyway.

Jimmy I'll be your friend for much less than that.

$4995.00........CASH of course...and NO touching, who knows where your nasty hand has been.

Included in the price is at least 4 head nods in your general direction, sorry but an actual wave to you is not included in the package.

:mrgreen:

 

[hogjowl]

Find out if he's northern Mexican, or southern first, Jimmy. It might make all the difference.

 

[Jimmy L]

For that kind of money I'd own him for at least 10 years.

I do need my lawn mowed and snow removed.

 

[gavin]

I don't really know what is going on here but I guess I have only one question

Is "Terje" in the business of selling electric truckmounts?

http://www.nordic1.com/

!gotcha!

 

[Royal Man]

I don't really know what is going on here but I guess I have only one question

Is "Terje" in the business of selling electric truckmounts?

http://www.nordic1.com/

!gotcha!

If it at least had a list of product models, prices and a shopping cart would help to look like a business that wanted to sell electric truck mount.

I know he has videos. A few of them would also help.

The machines won't jump off the shelves by themselves.

 

[Hoody]

I think some may be missing the point completely.

I think T feels the 'technology' he used with Les to build those machines were between he and Les. If T wanted to sell a lot of machines he has the resources and capital to do so. Some forget that carpet cleaning is a simply hobby for him to do when he is not doing what has really provided him with a living.

 

[bob vawter]

Some forget that carpet cleaning is a simply hobby for him to do when he is not doing what has really provided him with a living.

you mean standing in fo Arnold Palmer..........

 

[Hoody]

I thought he was on the olympic skiing team :shock:

 

[ruff]

I think some may be missing the point completely.

Some forget that carpet cleaning is a simply hobby for Terje to do when he is not doing what has really provided him with a living.

Wait a minute.........He cleans carpet for fun?
It's his hobby?

Now that is one sick dude

 

[Brian R]

I think some may be missing the point completely.

Some forget that carpet cleaning is a simply hobby for Terje to do when he is not doing what has really provided him with a living.

Wait a minute.........He cleans carpet for fun?
It's his hobby?

Now that is one sick dude

I don't see a problem with that. !gotcha!
Some of us just like cleaning......Although I will admit...If I were to depend on it (me cleaning) again.... it probably wouldn't be as much fun.

 

[Padden McFadden]

Love how John can summerize others statements in such a way.

If ETM's were cola, one would be coke, and the other would be shasta. Let the folks decide what one mytee is and what one terry's is.

 

[hogjowl]

If ETM's were cola, the top would have been left off and all the carbonation would have already fizzed out.

I don't call them EWITs for nothing, ya know.

 

[Brian R]

So to T, Les and John or anyone who is savvy.


Can an van engine produce the amps needed to run the machine?

I think it would be cool to just plug it into your van and run it....Unless the outlet situation of the job was ultra convenient.

A mix of PTO and ETM.....Sorta kinda.

 

[Royal Man]

So to T, Les and John or anyone who is savvy.


Can an van engine produce the amps needed to run the machine?

I think it would be cool to just plug it into your van and run it....Unless the outlet situation of the job was ultra convenient.

A mix of PTO and ETM.....Sorta kinda.

Wouldn't that be defeating the main reason for buying an Electric.

Um....... Gas savings!!!

I never have a problem plugging in.

Cords on reels make it easy.


It's like those guys that have an electric and think they need a generator.

I'd be like having two wives.

Might come in handy once in a while. But, think of the double shopping bill and double the nagging.

Ain't one enough?

 

[Brian R]

The install would be cheaper than a PTO, warranty etc....Not sure the wear a PTO puts on an engine besides the engine running all the time.

Wouldn't have to run those cords through the water etc.

Wouldn't have the gas smell of the slide in and all the gastank issues etc.

Still quiet....Not sure where the rpms would have to be set.

Just a thought of a "just in case" kinda thing.

 

[Mikey P]

if ETMS were sodas, they should be served in baby bottles.