my blood is boiling

[brendan]

hey,,,,what do you do?ive done lots of work for this guy,,property management company,,done offices for him 3 months ago,,cheques been coming for the last month,,1,500 euro which is about 2200 dollars,,,,,,,no sign,,not answering the phone now,,,now i cant let things like this go ,,,even if it was for one room,,i get paid,,,,what do you lads do

 

[Royal Man]

You might just have to forget about it.

 

[brendan]

cant dave,,,,i treat it as if i found him in my house in the middle of the night,,as far as im concerned its the same thing

 

[Ken Snow]

I don't understand the problem exactly. You have been paid or not? Is it not getting more bus?

Ken

 

[brendan]

no,,i havent been paid

 

[Brian R]

That's a hard deal Brendan.

Laws won't let us treat him like a thief in the home unfortunately.

You will have to just keep working on him. If you have a business address you can just show up....but keep your cool.

I've put liens on house for lack of payment....not carpet cleaning related....but it can be done here in the States....Not sure about your area.

Reporting him to the credit bureaus etc.

Not a whole lot can be done to make him pay unless you can get a hold of his checking account through the courts...but good luck finding the right checking account.
Guys like that will change them monthly.

Good luck.

 

[bob vawter]

throw NAILS in his driveway......it jus magically releases your anger...
don't ask me how i know this.......

 

[Desk Jockey]

When we've done all we can and they are just not going make good on their debt, we turn them into the collection agency.

We lose 40% but it's better than 100% of nothing. thathurts

 

[brendan]

yep bob,,its weird how they pay up when you pull up outside there house

 

[bob vawter]

in over forty years of business....i can count on one hand the number of times i never got paid!
i had a property management co where Sid sold his brother Sal the company and never paid contractors.......
SO..i went over to Sids office and paid his secretary for his HOME phone number........
it took ONE phone call at 3 AM...to get my money

 

[brendan]

if i find out where he lifes i could go on a college web site and say theres a party weekend on with his address,,bouncy castles,beerkegs,,all welcome,,,,jesus im a bitter man lol

 

[Desk Jockey]

Twenty years ago I had a hotel that owed $8,000.00 for some WDR work. They delayed paying for three months, turned them into collections, but they refused them. They said the group owed everyone and there was no point. A few months later the owner called wanted to pay half because he was selling the property.

We told him we couldn't do that. :x

He sold the hotel, that new owner lasted 6-months and they went out, we never collected a thing. We should have took half when he was willing to pay.

Lesson learned, when a may says he is broke and is only able to pay so much, take it. You may not get a second chance to collect it. thathurts

 

[brendan]

if a guy was hard up id say fair enough,,,this guy just a axx hole,,,flash car and all his properties high end,,,has about ten holidays a year and hes not paying for the eleventh of my sweat,,,lol lol hope im not sounding like a vigilante lol

 

[Brian R]

I've been screwed all of a few times. One time nothing.....other time I got a little under half because she was going to make payments etc.

I have some larger accounts that I sweat over everytime we do them because you just never know with this economy.

My parents cleaned for a Montgomery Wards back in the day and they owed a ton of money.....MW went bankrupt and Mom and Dad never got a dime. Oouch.

I'm waiting for some pretty big checks right now.

And hopefully Groupon doesn't go out of business any time soon. :shock:

 

[AJB]

Not sure about Irish law, but here in England you could threaten him
with a winding up order.

Give him 14 days to pay in writing, and inform him that you will apply
for a summary winding up order if payment not recieved.

What you are saying is you don't believe he has the capital to maintain his
business, and is therefore operating illegally.

You can claim the cost of the order, plus interest at 8.5% PA calculated daily
from the date the invoice was issued.

The court applies the order and he has 7 days to pay, or his business is no more.
This is powerful stuff and has even forced British Gas amongst others to settle
very speedily.

The only way they can fight it is to prove to the court they are financially viable by
paying YOU.

 

[ruff]

And hopefully Groupon doesn't go out of business any time soon. :shock:

Nah..........Brian.
You are safe for now, they may go bankrupt only after their IPO.

And knowing how invested you are, both financially and emotionally, you may be interested in buying some of their stock

Remember the Alamo though :mrgreen:

 

[Brian R]

I don't think Groupon will last like Facebook or Google.

At least now how they are doing now anyway.

 

[B&BGaryC]

Not sure about Irish law, but here in England you could threaten him
with a winding up order.

Give him 14 days to pay in writing, and inform him that you will apply
for a summary winding up order if payment not recieved.

What you are saying is you don't believe he has the capital to maintain his
business, and is therefore operating illegally.

You can claim the cost of the order, plus interest at 8.5% PA calculated daily
from the date the invoice was issued.

The court applies the order and he has 7 days to pay, or his business is no more.
This is powerful stuff and has even forced British Gas amongst others to settle
very speedily.

The only way they can fight it is to prove to the court they are financially viable by
paying YOU.

THAT IS AWESOME!

 

[Ron Werner]

I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like the way to go to me.
Wish we had that here!

 

[Padden McFadden]

You might just have to forget about it.

He can't Dave, he's an Irish man. He must have satisfaction!

 

[brendan]

wont go in to to much detail but got a cheque this morning,,,,,lol now i feel guilty lol and the merry go around goes on

 

[Brian R]

You did the work....You should get your money.....No guilt from that.

But of course I don't know the details. lol

 

[B&BGaryC]

3am phone calls?

 

[gavin]

I'm glad you got paid. would you still take work from him in the future?