I love Mikeys board
I love Mikeysboard because… it helps me find the people I don’t want to serve.
What you are about to read is a recap of what I go through several times a day.
I use a little word called ‘contribution’ to quickly separate givers from takers.
Most recently it’s Ronnie Ballenger, the guy looking for a PMF Ti wand.
Obviously he didn’t know of all the upgrades I do.
So like others of ignorance, he goes to MB whereby no one dared tell him “just call Joe” for fear of being threatened by the linchmen in control.
So I email Ronnie about my version then he calls me.
We had a nice 15 minute talk and I answered all his questions.
I explained how I build the PMF Ti with custom everything, lenth, flow,
glide, optionals etc..
He thinks about it a couple of days, realizes it’s probly a better value - custom features you don’t get with the stock wand he was about to pay $300 more for - so he starts an email exchange with me. Some 15 emails later I have him really wanting it. So I’m about to arrange it for him, but one more little detail… I know Ronnie to know if Ronnie s a giver or still a taker. See, I know from years back that Ronnie is a slow payer, an ungrateful customer and vindictive bulletinboarder, quick to ask questions when he needs help but slow to answer others’ questions. I hoped he had changed and was about to find out. You may know that I simply won’t help anybody else if they don’t already have at least a smiggin of desire to help others.
So after Ronnie’s telephone call and 15+ email Questions, I would find out if he was a giver, a Contributor? Not a tough question to answer for an honest, willing person, Right? Well, like so many before him, he pretended to not know what I was talking about. When he realized I was serious, he quickly to backed out of the deal. I made it clear what I wanted was one simple little thing, to be willing to help others. Of course he would not even address that issue. Denial. Just like so many others. Where do these people hang out? You guess it, Mikeysboard.
I would have put money on Ronnie going there in a vindictive way, just like so many others before him. Sure enough, there he is on Mikeyboard. But wow! Notice the well written, punctuated document Ronnie posted. Not at all like the brief text messages he threw at me 15 times…like answer this quick, I’m busy. No! this was well thought out, planned piece no doubt one he got help with. Hey Mikey, Joe is being mean to me. No problem Ronnie, let me help you. This gem was meant to garner sympathy & support from others of his same caliber. And as crazy as it seems, it was meant to twist the story from one of Joe offering to help to one of how mean & crazy Joe must be. Only on Mikeyboard do you get such one-side twisted lies.
Classic childish behavior Ronnie’s…. if I can’t get daddy to lemme maybe mommy will. His sarcastic attempt to discredit me, my business and me generosity. It won’t be for some time til Ronnie realizes how bad he screwed up.
I have drawn this line … I’m only gonna help certain people from now on.
All the rest can be the Ronnie Ballenger’s of the world.
Guess who came to his defense… the same losers who I’ve expelled in the past.
FACT: they have each been asked to contribute. That’s all I ask. Is that too much? To an honest person, he would say no, not at all. To dishonest people, it is not even in their vocabulary. Look at Ronnie’s denial. Notice he NEVER actually addresses the real issue. He NEVER says sure I will contribute.
These people follow the same behavioral pattern: confusion, defensiveness, denial vindictiveness, in that order. Most twist the fact or outright lie just to save face.
The only way they have to justify their utterly selfishness is to find others who will help them call me names and create a false message that it’s not them, it’s me. Of course few of these guys made it past high school; much less hold doctorate degrees in medicine or psychology do they? But there they are casting the stone, judging & ridiculing. This is Mikeysboard…. THE place to hang out if you are one of the helpless, selfish, sacrcastic people who needs a support group full of other misery-loves-company people.
I knew Ronnie Ballenger from the past, way before he called. Yet I reached out to help him.
I only asked one simple little favor of him. He rejected me completely.
Then he began his plan to get even with me.
Is this the action of a mature adult or a mean little boy? Seriously, I ask you?
I see the same behavior in Mikey and his administration, past & present. Aren’t these the guys who administer Mikeyboard and ‘kick-start’ the auctions, yet never seem to get around to finishing them? Aren’t these the guys ALWAYS taking up for the advertisers who pay Mikey; even when they know they are dead wrong?
Maybe you can get a glimpse into why I left there – in the same second I realized the corruption was real, I was gone. I did it quietly not like the lie Mikey told where “Joe wants to address the group.” Mikey you lied to 1) create content for your own selfish self 2) to hide the fact that you are a liar. I have nothing against the group overall, most of you have a lot to share and you do. Fact is Mikey should be paying you all, not you paying him. Because without you, he is nothing. Nada. Squat. ZERO CONTRIBUTION. Right Mikey?
Both he and his adminstration … I want nothing to do with. I question their ethics, morality, honesty, and integrity. Just follow the money and you will see for yourself.
On the other hand if it wasn’t for these people, and this place, it wouldn’t be so easy for me to distinguish the Ronnie Ballenger’s of the world now would it?
So I gotta say it again, I love Mikeysboard.
Ronnie, you got it backwards, YOU have bitten the hand that was reaching out to feed you.
You only get to make that mistake once. Now you go hungry. Please go pay a thousand bucks for a stock PMF Ti 15” wand then join the crowd of cleaners belly-aching how bad it is. And remember it was your own selfishness that got you into the mess you’re in.
Like I say, I had hoped you had changed your ways, but you proved otherwise.
But it’s never too late. Just do what others do – contribute. You got it in you. So do it. But it’s too late for you & this wand. It was meant for you but now it’s going to a real cleaner who is not so selfish.
For the MBers reading this who fear the retaliation of Mike and his clan of manipulative thugs, fear not. Look at how MB readership has been in steady decline since the first days. The good people gradually realize this model is wrong and leave. Simple. I hope you join up with real cleaners and join in with the good sharing going over here. Like I say, you all have a lot to offer. Ronnie Ballinger does too. He just needs to realize it. Thanks RCTeam for making this place real. We are the white light at the opposite end of the black hole that I love so much.
Below is the email exchange. Note the sequence,
Me helping Ronnie,
Ronnie taking my help
Then I ask for his help and immediately rejects me.
Confusion, denial, rejection, vindictiveness, seeking support, fake contributions to save face.
Classic behavior I’ve seen from so many Ronnie’s.
After our 15 minute initial phone call where I patiently explained all his options ….
Ronnie starts emailing me and promptly respond to all of them.
Ronnie:
Will you still send me a 15" wand to try out if I pay shipping??
Joe:
sure, I’ll start getting one ready.
Length = long?
Glide = Hybrid?
Flow = Medium?
Thermometer? If so, which side, left or right?
Ronnie:
Length-Where do u measure from? Im 5'11"
Flow?? Type of jets?
Glide hybrid.. holes/slots
No thermometer...
Joe:
flow, low flow, medium flow, high flow.
It’s 6 jet wand.
See the shear kit page to help you decide.
Ronnie:
i guess medium to high.. sorry still dont quite understand fully but thatll prob work for me.. i thought the flow was controlled more by the pressure you put out..
Joe:
yea, youre right, but jet size is important too.
I realize I only have two in stock the long one (too long for a guy 5’11”) and the pressure gun version which is the right length for you.
Interested in pressure gun?
If not, I gotta wait til Monday to order, I may already a couple coming but PMF is typically slow.
I’ll be lucky to get it Monday week.
Ronnie:
Jet gun may b cool... but think regular one is ok..
Ronnie:
Ok... got a job on june 19 th i wantd to try it out on but guess ill have no choice if u dont already have one comn..
Ronnie:
Ok Joe... guess just let me know when u find out if u have one comn...
If i like this one ill b back with ya in a 12" 2" ...
Joe:
Don’t forget the VT14 – my best seller by far.
I can make you one custom length, custom flow, glide, stainless soft Touch.
All the same features except 14” ss head instead of 15” Ti head with PMF.
VT14 is $499 vs $799 for the PMF.
Plus I can get it on the way Monday so you’d have it on time.
just a thought.
Ronnie:
I actually want a 16"
But will do the 15...
So guess i dont have a choice but wait..
When will u find out if u have some on the way.?
Joe:
I’ll call Monday.
Ronnie:
K..lemme know...
Do u usually have a 12" n stock..
Joe:
which 12” ?
Ronnie:
Just like the 15
Joe:
No,
Hey go sign up and start posting on my cafe.
I prefer helping givers.
I’m sure you have a lot to give but most posts I see from you on MB are Qs you need answered.
Let’s see if you can show me that you are a giver, not just a taker.
OK?
Ronnie:
Now thay i think about it.. dont worry, ill look elsewhere....
Joe:
I was just asking you to share your knowledge.
You got a problem with that?
Ronnie:
Its cool joe.. dont worry..
Joe:
Not worried, just had to reconfirm whether you were still a taker.
I was hoping maybe you had changed your ways. Obviously not.
Your JoeBilt wand will go to a real cleaner.
You will pay more for less; just as it should be.
Sorry Ronnie.
Joe Bristor
Ronnie:
Whatever.... ive been cleaning for 19 years.. I AM A REAL CLEANER..theres no mistake in that..
I had already lookd at ur web for some other things i wanted...
Make no mistake joe, i dont HAVE TO HAVE ur wand and one more thing...
NEVER try to degrade me, just becausevi dont live on the boards doesnt mean im not a great cleaner...i am, i do alot of work so im in the field...not on my computer...
The questions i posted were mostly problems....
Ronnie:
Remember... dont bite the hand that feeds you...
Ronnie:
As a professional, i cant believe you went from selling me two wands and accesories to bugging about me in a chatboard..***** Joe, you are deff not who i thot you were..
Joe:
I notice through your last several responses you never did offer to contribute.
It’s like holding the cross to a vampire – that word contribute - isn’t it?
Ronnie:
What do u mean i didnt offer to contribute???
(Note Ronnie’s denial. Note how he immediately turned on me when I asked him to contribute.
It only took Ronnie a day to author his Mikeyboard post. Notice how he carefully left my name out. After he’d gained some support, here’s his final sarcastic “see I got you back” revenge email he sent to me)….
Ronnie:
Hey Joe,
Why dont you go to Mikeys board...
I have a great thread going and you will love it...
I especially love Mikey's final comment:
Just to make it clear Ronnie, Joe Bristor only participated on this forum for a very short time.
I would encourage you to do business with a more "stable" supplier.
As if to say I left under force or for some reason wasn't wanted there.
As if to imply he is stable? Do any of you know the real Mikey?
No Mikey I paid my dues to you and then some. In fact you told me you should be paying me $2k a month for all the people I bring to his board.
Don't worry I still do and don't need anything from you.
Mikeyboarders pay me month far in excess of what you could afford.
