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Goomer

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Yea I tried that one, but not the other one they have.
I like the one I use now, but might switch to the one from JonDon, or the one I used last month.
 
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Scott S.

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Not really interested in anything but the best. Those arnt the best.
 

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Unless they are better than Flex, I'm not interested Scott


Are they?


I actually asked Tre for some samples when they approached me about advertising here. I guess that was the deal breaker as I never heard back.


Did Tom Forsythe alter Dr Aziz's formula when you guys took over production?
If I were the Hanks I would have just switched them both to Flex and just added some dye to make one look different.
 

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More "Trade Secrets" in the Tile Master :winky:

Than the Flex with Cirtrusolv

Both MSDS cut and paste.....PS....I would like to try Tile Master against the Flex with Citrasolv I just purchased also....will be stopping by the booth :)

*** Tile Master MSDS


SAFETY DATA SHEET

This Safety Data Sheet conforms to ANSI Z400.5, and to the format requirements
and the International Chemical Safety Cards of the Global Harmonizing System.
THIS SDS COMPLIES WITH 29 CFR 1910.1200 (HAZARD COMMUNICATION STANDARD)
IMPORTANT: Read this SDS before handling & disposing of this product.
Pass this information on to employees, customers, & users of this product.


SECTION 1. IDENTIFICATION OF THE SUBSTANCE OR MIXTURE AND OF THE SUPPLIER

PRODUCT IDENTITY: TILE MASTER
PRODUCT PURPOSE: HARD SURFACE CLEANER
COMPANY IDENTITY: *****************
COMPANY ADDRESS: 5998 Providence Road Suite 110
COMPANY CITY: Virginia Beach, VA 23464
COMPANY PHONE: 1-757-486-3532
EMERGENCY PHONES: INFOTRAC: 1-800-535-5053 (USA)
1-352-323-3500 (International)

SECTION 2. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION

CAUTION

HAZARD STATEMENTS:
H100s = General, H200s = Physical, H300s = Health, H400s = Environmental
H302 Harmful if swallowed.
H315 Causes skin irritation.
H320 Causes eye irritation.
H332 Harmful if inhaled.
H335 May cause respiratory irritation.

PRECAUTIONARY STATEMENTS:
P100s = General, P200s = Prevention, P300s = Response, P400s = Storage, P500s = Disposal
P262 Do not get in eyes, on skin, or on clothing.
P280 Wear protective gloves/protective clothing/eye protection/face protection.
P301+310 IF SWALLOWED: Immediately call a POISON CENTER or doctor/physician.
P301+330+331 IF SWALLOWED: Rinse mouth. Do NOT induce vomiting.

SECTION 3. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

MATERIAL CAS# EINECS# WT %
Sodium Carbonate 497-19-8 - Trade Secret
Sodium Metasilicate 6834-92-0 - Trade Secret
2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 203-905-0 Trade Secret
Sodium Tripolyphosphate 7758-29-4 - Trade Secret
Orange Peel Terpene 8028-48-6 - Trade Secret

TRACE COMPONENTS: Trace ingredients (if any) are present in < 1% concentration,
(< 0.1% for potential carcinogens, reproductive toxins, respiratory tract mutagens,
and sensitizers). None of the trace ingredients contribute significant additional
hazards at the concentrations that may be present in this product. All pertinent hazard
information has been provided in this document, per the requirements of the Federal
Occupational Safety and Health Administration Standard (29 CFR 1910.1200), U.S. State
equivalents, and Canadian Hazardous Materials Identification System Standard (CPR 4).

SEE SECTIONS 8, 11 & 12 FOR TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION.

SECTION 4. FIRST AID MEASURES

EYE CONTACT:
For eyes, flush with plenty of water for 15 minutes & get medical attention.

SKIN CONTACT:
In case of contact with skin immediately remove contaminated clothing.
Wash thoroughly with soap & water. Wash contaminated clothing before reuse.

INHALATION:
After high vapor exposure, remove to fresh air. If breathing is difficult, give


SECTION 4. FIRST AID MEASURES (CONTINUED)

oxygen. If breathing has stopped, trained personnel should immediately begin
artificial respiration. If the heart has stopped, trained personnel
should immediately begin cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR).
CALL A PHYSICIAN immediately!
SWALLOWING:
Rinse mouth. Give plenty of water to drink. Do NOT induce vomiting.
GET MEDICAL ATTENTION IMMEDIATELY. Do NOT give liquids
to an unconscious or convulsing person.


SECTION 5. FIRE FIGHTING MEASURES

FIRE & EXPLOSION PREVENTIVE MEASURES
Above flash point, use a closed system, ventilation,
explosion-proof electrical equipment, lighting.

EXTINGUISHING MEDIA
Use dry powder, AFFF, alcohol-resistant foam, water spray, carbon dioxide. .
use appropriate extinguishing media.

SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES
Water spray may be ineffective on fire but can protect fire-fighters
& cool closed containers. Use fog nozzles if water is used.
Do not enter confined fire-space without full bunker gear.
(Helmet with face shield, bunker coats, gloves & rubber boots).
Use NIOSH approved positive-pressure self-contained breathing apparatus.

UNUSUAL EXPLOSION AND FIRE PROCEDURES
Isolate from oxidizers, heat, & open flame.
Closed containers may explode if exposed to extreme heat.
Applying to hot surfaces requires special precautions.

SECTION 6. ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES

PERSONAL PROTECTIVE MEASURES:
Keep unprotected personnel away.
Filter respirator for organic vapors.

ENVIRONMENTAL PRECAUTIONS:
Keep from entering storm sewers and ditches which lead to waterways.

CONTAINMENT AND CLEAN-UP MEASURES:
Stop spill at source.

SECTION 7. HANDLING AND STORAGE

HANDLING
Use only with adequate ventilation. Avoid or repeated breathing of vapor or spray mist.
Do not get in eyes, on skin or clothing. Wear OSHA Standard goggles or face shield. Consult
Safety Equipment Supplier. Wear goggles, face shield, gloves, apron & footwear impervious to
material. Wash clothing before reuse.

STORAGE
Isolate from strong oxidants.
Keep container tightly closed & upright when not in use to prevent leakage.
SECTION 8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS/PERSONAL PROTECTION

MATERIAL CAS# EINECS# TWA (OSHA) TLV (ACGIH)
Sodium Carbonate 497-19-8 - None Known None Known
Sodium Metasilicate 6834-92-0 - None Known None Known
2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 203-905-0 50 ppm S 20 ppm S
Sodium Tripolyphosphate 7758-29-4 - None Known None Known
Orange Peel Terpene 8028-48-6 - None Known 50 ppm

This product contains no EPA Hazardous Air Pollutants (HAP) in amounts > 0.1%.

SECTION 8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS/PERSONAL PROTECTION (CONTINUED)
RESPIRATORY EXPOSURE CONTROLS
A respiratory protection program that meets OSHA 29 CFR 1910.134 and
ANSI Z86.2 requirements or European Standard EN 149 must be followed
whenever workplace conditions warrant a respirator's use.

VENTILATION
LOCAL EXHAUST: Necessary MECHANICAL (GENERAL): Acceptable
SPECIAL: None OTHER: None
Please refer to ACGIH document, "Industrial Ventilation, A Manual of
Recommended Practices", most recent edition, for details.

PERSONAL PROTECTIONS:
Wear OSHA Standard goggles & gloves as a standard practice.

SECTION 9. PHYSICAL & CHEMICAL PROPERTIES

APPEARANCE: Light Beige Powder
ODOR: Orange
ODOR THRESHOLD: Not Available
pH (Neutrality): 12.2
MELTING POINT/FREEZING POINT: Not Available
BOILING RANGE (IBP,50%,Dry Point): Not Applicable
FLASH POINT (TEST METHOD): No Flash to Boiling Point
EVAPORATION RATE (n-BUTYL ACETATE=1): Not Applicable
FLAMMABILITY CLASSIFICATION: Not Available
LOWER FLAMMABLE LIMIT IN AIR (% by vol): Not Available
UPPER FLAMMABLE LIMIT IN AIR (% by vol): Not Available
VAPOR PRESSURE (mm of Hg)@20 C Not Available
VAPOR DENSITY (air=1): Not Available
BULK DENSITY (Grams/CC): Not Available
WATER SOLUBILITY: Complete
PARTITION COEFFICIENT (n-Octane/Water): Not Available
AUTO IGNITION TEMPERATURE: Not Applicable
DECOMPOSITION TEMPERATURE: Not Available

SECTION 10. STABILITY & REACTIVITY

STABILITY
Stable under normal conditions.

CONDITIONS TO AVOID
Isolate from oxidizers, heat, & open flame.

MATERIALS TO AVOID
Reacts with strong oxidants, causing fire & explosion hazard.

HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS
Carbon Monoxide, Carbon Dioxide, Sodium Oxide & Hydroxide, Silicon Dioxide
from extreme heating.

HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION
Will not occur.

SECTION 11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION

ACUTE HAZARDS

EYE & SKIN CONTACT:
Primary irritation to skin, defatting, dermatitis.
Absorption thru skin increases exposure.
Primary irritation to eyes, redness, tearing, blurred vision.
Powder can cause eye irritation. Wash thoroughly after handling.

INHALATION:
Anesthetic. Irritates respiratory tract. Acute overexposure
can cause serious nervous system depression. Vapor harmful.
Breathing vapor can cause irritation.

SECTION 11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION (CONTINUED)

Acute overexposure can cause harm to kidneys, blood, nerves, liver, lungs.

SWALLOWING:
Swallowing can cause abdominal irritation, nausea, vomiting & diarrhea.
The symptoms of chemical pneumonitis may not show up for a few days.

SUBCHRONIC HAZARDS/CONDITIONS AGGRAVATED

CONDITIONS AGGRAVATED
Chronic overexposure can cause harm to kidneys, blood, nerves, liver, lungs.
Persons with severe skin, liver or kidney problems should avoid use.

CHRONIC HAZARDS

CANCER, REPRODUCTIVE & OTHER CHRONIC HAZARDS:
This product has no carcinogens listed by IARC, NTP, NIOSH,
OSHA or ACGIH, as of this date, greater or equal to 0.1%.
Absorption thru skin may be harmful.

IRRITANCY OF PRODUCT: This product is irritating to contaminated tissue.

SENSITIZATION TO THE PRODUCT: No component of this product is known to be a sensitizer.

MUTAGENICITY: This product is not reported to produce mutagenic effects in humans.

EMBRYOTOXICITY: This product is not reported to produce embryotoxic effects in humans.

TERATOGENICITY: This product is not reported to produce teratogenic effects in humans.

REPRODUCTIVE TOXICITY: This product is not reported to cause reproductive effects in humans.

A mutagen is a chemical which causes permanent changes to genetic material (DNA) such that
the changes will propagate through generational lines. An embryotoxin is a chemical which
causes damage to a developing embryo (such as: within the eight weeks of pregnancy in
humans), but the damage does not propagate across generational lines. A teratogen is a
chemical which causes damage to a developing fetus, but the damage does not propagate
across generational lines. A reproductive toxin is any substance which interferes in any way
with the reproductive process.

MAMMALIAN TOXICITY INFORMATION

MATERIAL CAS# EINECS# LOWEST KNOWN LETHAL DOSE DATA
LOWEST KNOWN LD50 (ORAL)
Ethylene Glycol Butyl Ether 111-76-2 - 320.0 mg/kg(Rabbits)
LOWEST KNOWN LC50 (VAPORS)
Ethylene Glycol Butyl Ether 111-76-2 - 700 ppm (Mice)
LOWEST KNOWN LD50 (SKIN)
Ethylene Glycol Butyl Ether 111-76-2 - 440.0 mg/kg (Rabbits)

SECTION 12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION

ALL WORK PRACTICES MUST BE AIMED AT ELIMINATING ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION.

EFFECT OF MATERIAL ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS:
This product may be harmful or fatal to plant and animal life if released
into the environment. Refer to Section 11 (Toxicological Information) for
further data on the effects of this product's components on test animals.

EFFECT OF MATERIAL ON AQUATIC LIFE:
The most sensitive known aquatic group to any component of this product is:
Tidewater Silversides 1250 ppm or mg/L (96 hour exposure).
Keep out of sewers and natural water supplies.

MOBILITY IN SOIL
Mobility of this material has not been determined.



SECTION 12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION (CONTINUED)
DEGRADABILITY
This product is partially biodegradable.

ACCUMULATION
Bioaccumulation of this product has not been determined.


SECTION 13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS

Processing, use or contamination may change the waste disposal requirements. Do not
dispose of on land, in surface waters, or in storm drains. Waste should be recycled
or disposed of in accordance with regulations. Large amounts should be collected
for reuse or consigned to licensed hazardous waste haulers for disposal.
ALL DISPOSAL MUST BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL FEDERAL, STATE, PROVINCIAL, AND LOCAL
REGULATIONS. IF IN DOUBT, CONTACT PROPER AGENCIES.


SECTION 14. TRANSPORT INFORMATION

DOT/TDG SHIP NAME: Not Regulated
DRUM LABEL: None
IATA / ICAO: Not Regulated
IMO / IMDG: Not Regulate
EMERGENCY RESPONSE GUIDEBOOK NUMBER: None


SECTION 15. REGULATORY INFORMATION

EPA REGULATION:
SARA SECTION 311/312 HAZARDS: Acute Health

All components of this product are on the TSCA list.
SARA Title III Section 313 Supplier Notification
This product contains the indicated <*> toxic chemicals subject to the
reporting requirements of Section 313 of the Emergency Planning & Community
Right-To-Know Act of 1986 & of 40 CFR 372. This information must be
included in all MSDSs that are copied and distributed for this material.

SARA TITLE III INGREDIENTS CAS# EINECS# WT% (REG.SECTION) RQ(LBS)
*2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 203-905-0 0- 5 (313) None

STATE REGULATIONS:
CALIFORNIA SAFE DRINKING WATER & TOXIC ENFORCEMENT ACT (PROPOSITION 65):
This product contains no chemicals known to the State of California
to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity.

INTERNATIONAL REGULATIONS
The components of this product are listed on the chemical inventories of the
following countries:
Australia (AICS), Canada (DSL or NDSL), China (IECSC), Europe (EINECS, ELINCS)G
Japan (METI/CSCL, MHLW/ISHL), South Korea (KECI), New Zealand (NZIoC),
Philippines (PICCS), Switzerland (SWISS), Taiwan (NECSI), USA (TSCA).

CANADA: WORKPLACE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INFORMATION SYSTEM (WHMIS)
D2B: Irritating to skin / eyes.

This product has been classified in accordance with hazard criteria of the Controlled
Products Regulations (CPR) and the SDS contains all the information required by the CPR.


SECTION 16. OTHER INFORMATION

HAZARD RATINGS:
HEALTH (NFPA): 2, HEALTH (HMIS): 2, FLAMMABILITY: 0, PHYSICAL HAZARD: 0
(Personal Protection Rating to be supplied by user based on use conditions.)
This information is intended solely for the use of individuals
trained in the NFPA & HMIS hazard rating systems.

SECTION 16. OTHER INFORMATION (CONTINUED)

EMPLOYEE TRAINING
See Section 2 for Risk & Safety Statements. Employees should be made aware
of all hazards of this material (as stated in this SDS) before handling it.

SDS DATE: 5/16/2014

NOTICE
The manufacturer disclaims all expressed or implied warranties of merchantability or
fitness for a specific use, with respect to the product or the information provided herein,
except for conformation to contracted specifications. All information appearing herein
is based upon data obtained from manufacturers and/or recognized technical sources.
While the information is believed to be accurate, we make no representations as to its
accuracy or sufficiency.
Conditions of use are beyond our control, and therefore users are responsible for
verifying the data under their own operating conditions to determine whether the product
is suitable for their particular purposes and they assume all risks of their handling,
and disposal of the product. Users also assume all risks in regards to the publication
or use of, or reliance upon information contained herein.
This information relates only to the product designated herein, and does not relate to
its use in combination with any other material or process.


[B]Flex with Citrasolv MSDS[/B]

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
PRODUCT NAME: FLEX POWDER WITH CITRUS SOLV
CC2118
SECTION 1: COMPANY AND PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAME: Flex Powder with Citrus Solv
Manufacturer: Bridgepoint Systems, 4282 S 590 W, Salt Lake City, Utah 84123
Company Phone Number: 801-261-1282
Emergency Phone Number: 1-800-535-5053 (Infotrac)
Date Prepared: 6/10/2012
Hazard Rating (Zero=Insignificant 1=Slight 2=Moderate 3=High 4=Extreme)
Fire: 0 Health: 2 Reactivity: 0
SECTION 2: INGREDIENTS
HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS: TLV OSHA PEL
Delimonene (CAS # 5989-27-5) N/E N/E
Sodium Metasilicate (CAS # 6834-92-0) N/E N/E
SECTION 3: HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION
IMMEDIATE HEALTH EFFECTS
Eyes: Overexposure may cause irritation to eyes.
Skin: Prolonged and repeated contact may cause irritation to skin.
Inhalation: Inhalation may cause irritation of upper respiratory passages.
Ingestion: Single dose oral toxicity is low. Swallowing large amounts may be harmful.
PRIMARY ROUTES OF ENTRY: Eyes, skin contact/absorption, inhalation or ingestion.
SIGNS/SYMPTOMS OF OVEREXPOSURE: Gastrointestinal irritation (nausea, vomiting,
diarrhea), and/or irritation to the skin, eyes, nose, throat, and respiratory tract.
TARGET ORGAN EFFECTS: Irritation of the skin and eyes. Irritation of lungs possible if
mists/aerosols are inhaled.
REPRODUCTIVE/DEVELOPMENTAL INFORMATION: No data available.
CARCINOGENICITY:
NTP: Known – No; Anticipated – No OSHA: No IARC: Not classifiable as to carcinogene to humans.
LONG TERM EFFECTS: No data available.
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
PRODUCT NAME: FLEX POWDER WITH CITRUS SOLV CC21
Page 2 of 4
SECTION 4: EMERGENCY AND FIRST AID PROCEDURES
EYES: Flush eyes with water for at least 15 minutes. If irritation persists, consult a physician.
SKIN: If irritation occurs, flush skin with water for at least 15 minutes. If irritation persists,
consult a physician
INHALATION: If symptoms of overexposure develop, remove to fresh air. If symptoms persist,
consult a physician.
INGESTION: Give 8 to 16 ounces of water to dilute substance. Do not induce vomiting.
Consult a physician or local Poison Control Center. Never give anything by mouth to an
unconscious person.
SECTION 5: FIRE, EXPLOSION & REACTIVITY DATA
FLASH POINT: N/A
EXPLOSIVE LIMITS: No data available.
AUTOIGNITION TEMPERATURE: No data available.
HAZARDOUS PRODUCTS OF COMBUSTION: Product is not flammable. Use after, carbon
dioxide, dry powder or other media appropriate for materials actually involved in fire.
EXTINGUISHING MEDIA: Water spray, foam, dry chemical powder of carbon dioxide.
FIRE FIGHTING INSTRUCTIONS: None.
SECTION 6 - ACCIDENTAL RELEASE MEASURES
Sweep up for reuse when possible. Larger quantities should be collected for reuse or consigned
to a licensed hazardous waste hauler for disposal in accordance with federal, state and local
regulations.
SECTION 7. PRECAUTIONS FOR HANDLING AND STORAGE
Store out of reach of children. Keep container closed. Store in a cool, dry location. Avoid freezing
or extended storage in high temperatures and away from strong oxidizers and acid products.
SECTION 8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS/PERSONAL PROTECTION
Ventilation System………….. Room ventilation is normally satisfactory. Mechanical
assist may be required when vapors or mist are generated.
Personal Respirators………… Respirator recommended if product is misted. Use
NIOSH/MSHA approved respiratory protection.
Skin Protection…………….... Rubber gloves are recommended & other clothing that
will prevent contact with this product.
Eye Protection…………..…… Use safety glasses.
PRODUCT NAME: FLEX POWDER WITH CITRUS SOLV CC21
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SECTION 9: PHYSICAL DATA
Odor: Orange fragrance
Physical State: Light orange granular powder.
pH at Saturation Point: 13.0
Bulk Density : .816 g/cc
Boiling Point: N/D
Freezing/Melting Point: N/E
Vapor Pressure: N/D
Vapor Density: N/D
Solubility in Water @ 70 ºF: 19.0%
SECTION 10: STABILITY AND REACTIVITY
CHEMICAL STABILITY: Stable.
CONDITIONS TO AVOID: None with proper storing and handling.
MATERIALS TO AVOID: Strong acids and oxidizing materials.
HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION: Exposure to fire may liberate carbon dioxide, carbon
monoxide, organic acids and other unidentified thermal decomposition products from this product
or its packaging.
HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Will not occur.
SECTION 11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Delimonene: Orange terpenes have been shown to have low oral toxicity (LD50>5 g/kg) and
low dermal toxicity (LD50> 5g/kg) when tested on rabbits. Orange terpenes
also showed low toxicity by inhalation (RD50>1 g/kg) when tested on mice. The
skin irritancy of limonene in guinea pigs and rabbits is considered moderate
and low, respectively. Inhalation may cause irritation of the nose, throat,
and respiratory tract.
Delimonene is not classified as a carcinogen by OSHA, IARC, ACGIH or NTP.
This product has not been shown to produce genetic changes when tested on
bacterial or animal cells. This product does not contain known reproductive
or developmental toxins. Prolonged or repeated exposure can cause drying or
dermatitis of skin. Improper storage and handling may lead to the formation
of a possible skin sensitizer.
Sodium Metasilicate -The acute oral toxicity of this product has not been tested. When sodium
silicates were tested on a 100% solids basis, their single dose acute oral LD50 in rats ranged from
1500 mg/kg to 3200 mg/kg. The acute oral lethality resulted from nonspecific causes.
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
PRODUCT NAME: FLEX POWDER WITH CITRUS SOLV CC21
Page 4 of 4
SECTION 12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION
Delimonene: There is no information available at this time for Delimonene. However, a spill
may produce significant toxicity to aquatic organisms and ecosystems. Sonic studies have
shown that certain bacteria and fungi have the ability to degrade terpenes, decreasing their
toxicity to fish. When spilled, this product may act as an oil, causing a film, sheen, emulsion or
sludge at or beneath the surface of a body of water.
Sodium Metasilicate:A 96 hour median tolerance for fish (Gambusia affnis) of 2320 ppm; a 96
hour median tolerance for water fleas(Daphnia magna) of 247 ppm; a 96 hour median tolerance
for snail eggs (Lymnea) of 632 ppm; and a 96 hour median tolerance for Amphipoda of 160 ppm.
SECTION 13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS
Do not dispose of on the land, in surface waters, or in storm drains. Small spills and
waste may be reused or flushed into a waste treatment sewer where local regulations
permit. Larger quantities should be collected for reuse or consigned to a licensed
hazardous waste hauler for disposal in accordance with federal, state and local
regulations. All disposal must be in accordance with all federal, state and local
regulations.
SECTION 14. TRANSPORTATION
No restrictions for Ground, Air, or Maritime Transportation in accordance with 49 CFR parts
100-185.
SECTION 15. REGULATORY INFORMATION
US FEDERAL REGULATIONS
TSCA Status: The intentional components of this product are listed.
.
SECTION 16. OTHER INFORMATION
This product has no established regulatory information. All regulatory information given is
based on individual components of the mixture by component number. While this information
and recommendations set forth herein are believed to be accurate and reliable, it is provided
without warranty regarding its accuracy. BRIDGEPOINT SYSTEMS MAKES NO
WARRANTY WITH RESPECT HERETO AND DISCLAIMS ALL LIABILITY FROM
RELIANCE THEREON. Users must determine safe conditions for use and assume liability for
any loss, injury, damage or expense resulting from use of this product.
N/A= Not applicable N/D= Not determined N/E= Not established
 

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that cat has been out of the bag for a long time.


re-read my post above as it clearly states that Interlink manufactures(and distributes) both products now.


Rob kicked Aziz to the curb.



my question was did Tom Forsythe (Interlink's chemist) tweak on Aziz's formula..?
 
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Look I'm not in the habit of carrying tales and I fit in best here so this is home now, but I do have some friends over on the - other side - and so call by now and again to have a read. I saw a discussion with a respected *** respondent, a long timer and he basically said of ******* 5 something along the line of 'Rob, you'll tell us whatever you think we want to hear and so will your friends who you have appointed testers. A real test is to put the product up against other solid offerings and even to turn it over to some people who don't like you all that much but will test it and be fair' or words to this effect.

It was a while back. This member nominated you Mikey, and some of your closest to be approached for the test. Rob agreed (kind of in a back handed sort of - that doesn't bother me way) but this all centred around some detail which in the end was a misunderstanding. When this was discovered the respondent who challenged Rob backed down. A pity. I was actually thinking "if Rob asks Mikey to test it Mikey will and if it's good we'll know and if it's bad we'll know".

This showed me a lot about the men behind these boards. One of them I trust........

Grant
 
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