New to MB

[Pat Muller]

Happy New Year to all of you!

My Name is Pat Muller and I have recently come onboard the Legend Brands team as the Sales Manager for ChemSpec. I wanted to take a moment and introduce myself.

I have been in the cleaning industry since the late 70's working in the Seattle area.
I was a cleaning and restoration tech for 28 years before I went into the distribution side of the business.
I am an IICRC instructor and also hold the certs for Master Textile, Master Fire and Master Water tech.

I am very excited to become part the Legend Brands team.

I am looking forward to Mikey's Fest 10 and meeting all of you!

Regards

Pat Muller

 

[billyeadon]

Pat,
Welcome aboard. Hope things go very well in the new environment. Look forward to catching up with you at MF.

 

[Pat Muller]

Bill,
Looking forward to buying you a beer! Will be good to see you

 

[Steve Toburen]

Hey Pat,

You can run but you can't hide! Big Billy and I are everywhere!

Welcome aboard and I hope Legends treats you like the champ you are!

Steve

PS Now about those QuickTIP signups!

 

[Mikey P]

Welcome to TWGCCF Pat!

 

[The Great Oz]

Welcome to MB and the RPM/Borg!

 

[Desk Jockey]

Welcome!

 

[doylebloss]

Congratulations on your new position at Legend and Chemspec, Pat.

 

[Pat Muller]

Thank you Doyle

I am very excited about being part of the Team

 

[Pat Muller]

oh and yes Steve,

I know there is no place to hide from you and billy LOL

 

[GCCLee]

Wut Up : )

Look forward to sucking your mind of knowledge buddy!

Chris Lee in TN

 

[J Scott W]

Welcome to Mikey's Board. Looking forward to seeing you at Mikefest which is only about 6 weeks away.

 

[BLewis]

Welcome!

 

[Mark Saiger]

Welcome Pat,

Looking forward to meeting you at Mikeyfest as well!

Mark Saiger

 

[ruff]

Welcome Pat.
As a happy and frequent DFC user, could you tell me what is the actual difference between DFC 105 and DFC 210?

105 is a liquid and 210 is a powder. 105 carries the 'Wool Safe' & Green Seal Certified + more green labels. 210 does not. (Less).

Are both wool safe?
Does the Green Seal Certificate on 105 means that it is "greener"?
Should DFC 210 not be used on wool? Just as a pre pray?


Could you provide more specific information about these good products?

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Welcome Pat. I'll look forward to your answer to Ofer's question as well.

 

[SamIam]

Welcome! My guess on the dfc product is if there's a ph difference.

That would make one wool safe and the other not.

Chemspecworld.com has PDFs and product info to.

 

[SamIam]

Welcome! My guess on the dfc product is if there's a ph difference.

That would make one wool safe and the other not.

Chemspecworld.com has PDFs and product info to.

Nope same ph maybe they didn't send it in for testing?

 

[Russ T.]

Welcome Pat, see you at MF10!


The Clean Machine

 

[ruff]

Sam, I know how to read their product sheet. I'd like to think that my grand total of three years in elementary school were not totally wasted The info is not there.

Nice to have a Pat from Chemspec here, to clarify.

 

[TomKing]

Welcome I look forward to meeting you at MF10

 

[Larry Cobb]

Ofer;

I was told by the national sales rep that they just didn't renew the wool-safe certification on the 210 product.

I do think it is a good "green" prespray.

Larry

 

[ruff]

Thanks Larry,
I've never seen the wool safe label on 210 and JonDon's "Planet Guard" traffic lane cleaner, which is rumored to be the same product, does not have it either.

I was told by a supplier that 105 and 210 are almost identical save for one chem.
If that is the case, why not use 210 as a rinsing agent for wool, as it seems to clean much better? And it makes no sense to use 210 as a pre-spray and rinse with 105 if it is pretty much similar.
If I understand correctly the 210 starts more on the alkaline side (boosts cleaning) and than self neutralizes.

Be good to get the official explanation. I'm hoping pat will clarify.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Pat.. damn good to see you on here. I gotta say, I'm already miss going into Jon Don and not be able to chat it up with you.

 

[Ron K]

Pat.. damn good to see you on here. I gotta say, I'm already miss going into Jon Don and not be able to chat it up with you.

North or South?

 

[renegade_cowboy]

North or South?

He was at the north store.. same place I shop.. you?

 

[Ron K]

He was at the north store.. same place I shop.. you?

Sometimes, it's a pain in the ass to get there.

 

[hogjowl]

Are you still waiting on an answer, or has this thread been sufficiently hijacked?

 

[ruff]

Eagerly awaiting, though as of lately with SS and RPM- not holding my breath

 

[Pat Muller]

DFC

I am sorry it took so long to get back to you, I have been on the road of late.

Here is the info you wanted:

Chemically both products are quite similar:
• Both are based on soda ash, citrate, and lactate. We can discuss the significance of that some time.
• Neither have any surfactant
• Neither have a solvent or fragrance content.

Here are the differences:

• DFC105 is indeed a liquid and has all the major certifications. It is used both as a prespray and as a rinse. Because the pH is lower than 10, it is eligible for Woolsafe but is also going to be a bit less effective on more heavily soiled carpet.

• DFC210, being a powder, is more concentrated and has a higher pH so it is better for more heavily soiled traffic lanes. The pH is above 10 thus it will not qualify for Green Seal or Woolsafe.

I hope that helps