Now That I'm using a Fresh Water Tank...
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Mikey P
Administrator
Every job gets the same treatment?
Bob Savage
Member
You could, but chemical metering gives you far more choices on what to use when extracting.
Not that more choices here is really neessary. If I encounter a nasty, I put down the heavy stuff with the Hydro-Force, and then rinse while extracting with a fresh fragrance.
You do need a reliable chemical injection system.
Not that more choices here is really neessary. If I encounter a nasty, I put down the heavy stuff with the Hydro-Force, and then rinse while extracting with a fresh fragrance.
You do need a reliable chemical injection system.
I generally run the same rinse(low ph) on every job. You find a good one why switch? I guess if it's a rat nasty I might go to an emulsifier.
How are you using different styles of rinse products, Mike?
dgardner
Moderator
If your chem injection is of the last step variety, then the chems don't run through the pump, possibly extending it's lifespan. Mixing it in the tank not only exposes the pump to the chemical, it basically soaks in it 24 hours a day unless you purge the pump with fresh water at the end of the day...
Desk Jockey
Member
Possibility of scale with the chems in the heating system.
Green Clean LLC
Member
If you mix chems in your fresh water tank, for some reason it will sour and smell worse than your dump tank if left for several days.
Also, mold will develop- so if you do, be prepared to have to clean the fresh water tank out regularly.
We did it for a short time while our chem feed was down and that is what I noticed.
Also, mold will develop- so if you do, be prepared to have to clean the fresh water tank out regularly.
We did it for a short time while our chem feed was down and that is what I noticed.
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
dang...that Haylie is purty cute?
Desk Jockey
Member
Down boy down! Heel!
Good boy!
Good boy!
Kellie Hiler
Member
Haylie! Bawb is mine! 
Lol!!
Lol!!
Captain Morgan
Supportive Member
Bane's run that way in principle. Mix up your chemicals for the days cleaning in the storage tank. You can dial in your prespray a little more specifically to your individual cleaning jobs throughout the day.
Kellie Hiler
Member
So, what if you wanted to use an enzyme for one job and a different prespray for the next?
Larry Cobb
Member
Bob;
Since you have a fresh water float tank also,
you can use a rinse in the 75 gal fresh tank or use water only in the small float tank.
Is the TM providing the cleaning ability you wanted ?
Larry
Since you have a fresh water float tank also,
you can use a rinse in the 75 gal fresh tank or use water only in the small float tank.
Is the TM providing the cleaning ability you wanted ?
Larry
ruff
Member
I have many clients where on the same job, I'd clean wool, synthetic and other natural fibers.
If the rinse you run is an acid rinse, pre-mixing in the fresh water tank will be fine. I like to run an alkaline rinse on synthetics (better results imho) and neutral or acid rinse on others. Therefore no premixing.
Not to mention the fact that I don't have (or need) a fresh water tank.
If the rinse you run is an acid rinse, pre-mixing in the fresh water tank will be fine. I like to run an alkaline rinse on synthetics (better results imho) and neutral or acid rinse on others. Therefore no premixing.
Not to mention the fact that I don't have (or need) a fresh water tank
.Hey Larry!
I love the machine! Thank you for a quite enjoyable visit to your facility (it's quite a place you have there). It was my pleasure meeting you, Marie and the rest of the staff. You all contributed to making my much needed road trip well worth it.
GeneMiller
Member
i have done that if my meter stops working for some reason. i don't believe your pump will last as long, as least in my experience. i use fiber rinse from bridgpoint for almost everything anyway including upholstery. i occasionally switch to fabset for a silk or real delicates. the problem is tile cleaning. i did it before and it didn't show but it would depend on the gloss of the tile and how much product. your better off not doing it.
steve_64
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As a bane guy I premix in the fresh water and have never had it sour or go bad. I suppose if you used just well water it may smell funky.
There are times I wish I had control over my rinse agent but its not very often. I use cleanfree for my rinse now and I use it about half strength. I clean a lot of apartments so this works for me.
If I want enzymes or whatever thats what I will prespray with. I have been using pump ups and a hydraforce but I just bought a cordless sprayer to make things easier.
There are times I wish I had control over my rinse agent but its not very often. I use cleanfree for my rinse now and I use it about half strength. I clean a lot of apartments so this works for me.
If I want enzymes or whatever thats what I will prespray with. I have been using pump ups and a hydraforce but I just bought a cordless sprayer to make things easier.
Mikey P
Administrator
You can find bibs easy enough in your goofy area?
hogjowl
Idiot™
My Cleanco chemical system is working at the moment(too new to fail), so I'm all about acid rinse.
Tomorrow may be different.
Tomorrow may be different.
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Mikey P
Administrator
But which acid rinse?
They're all so different, it's fun to do side by sides and try them all.
They're all so different, it's fun to do side by sides and try them all.
Spurlington
Member
Depending on what you use .. I know a guy that puts his detergent in his 55 gal barrel fresh water and theres a slime that grows along with what looks like maybe mold .. not sure but Im thinking thats probably not good.
I knew another guy running a detergent thru his pump causing failure due to build up without descaling.
I know another guy that pours his rinse in the fresh water tank with no problem ever running thru his pump.
Ive experienced chemical meter failure one too many times so I add to the fresh tank as well.
Id say yeah add your rinse agent to your fresh tank and if you want water rinse only, then bypass the fresh tank by going direct using quick disconnects for tile cleaning. Also flush your pump with your bypass set up to be on the safe side at the end of the day.
GeneMiller
Member
That's a great idea. I've gotten so reliant on the tank it didn't even dawn on me, plus I've gotten lazy.
Captain Morgan
Supportive Member
Hi Kellie,
To answer your question as Steve 64 already referenced.. if you want to use an enzyme product for a particular job you would have to change your prespray to address your cleaning needs. Like Steve, I had a pump up and an electric sprayer and a couple extra hydroforce inline spray jugs to mix up specific presprays for job too big for the pump ups or electric. It was kind of annoying and inconvenient especially when the entire tank was made up with an alkaline rinse and you really wanted or needed an acid side rinse.
Bane claimed their residential alkaline emulsifiers were safe to be used on both carpet and upholstery without issue...again, just change the prespray if you needed extra punch on a nasty. I never had any problems or call backs.
I never had any problems with my tank getting any funky smells or odors so I can't speak to that issue and I had well water at the time too.
To answer your question as Steve 64 already referenced.. if you want to use an enzyme product for a particular job you would have to change your prespray to address your cleaning needs. Like Steve, I had a pump up and an electric sprayer and a couple extra hydroforce inline spray jugs to mix up specific presprays for job too big for the pump ups or electric. It was kind of annoying and inconvenient especially when the entire tank was made up with an alkaline rinse and you really wanted or needed an acid side rinse.
Bane claimed their residential alkaline emulsifiers were safe to be used on both carpet and upholstery without issue...again, just change the prespray if you needed extra punch on a nasty. I never had any problems or call backs.
I never had any problems with my tank getting any funky smells or odors so I can't speak to that issue and I had well water at the time too.
Larry Cobb
Member
We use an alkaline rinse with ample water softeners as a rinse product at a higher dilution rate.
It is better at suspending soil than any commercial acid rinse.
http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index...facturers_id=&pfrom=&pto=&dfrom=&dto=&x=0&y=0
It is better at suspending soil than any commercial acid rinse.
http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index...facturers_id=&pfrom=&pto=&dfrom=&dto=&x=0&y=0
Kellie Hiler
Member
It just seems like too much of a pain to do it that way. I like having just my freshwater, just my headpack that I can fill with what I want for each job and my presprayer that I can fill as needed with the job situation.
