Ozone Generators

[Travis Sonderegger]

Can someone enlighten me a little on ozone generators. I have been looking at the pros choice x5000 and someone mentioned this thing to me. Why not buy like 5 of these instead of one x5000?


http://www.amazon.com/Enerzen-Comme...00JAP7388/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

[Larry Cobb]

Travis;
Ozone Generators require good components due to the high voltage and amount of Ozone generated.
We like the Sonizaire models since they build thousands of ozone machines a year.

This is a good rugged machine at a reasonable price that is popular with restoration professionals :

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=82&products_id=1390

 

[Nate The Great]

I'm got the model @Larry Cobb posted and it's bigger brother... Both were bought in the early 1990's and have made money through the years.. I believe the bigger one is broken now.. Not sure if it's the high volt transformer or what, but it more than paid for itself...

 

[CTI Courtney]

Well, for starters it produces 5k milligrams/hr not 3500. It runs continuously, not a max of 2 hours and honestly... you get what you pay for. I don't see an $84 ozone machine being commercial grade, do you? http://www.proschoice.com/ozone-x5000.html

 

[Cleanworks]

I use the oasis from US Products. Output is 2.65 grams per hour an has a 30 hour programmable timer. I use to remove mainly cig. Smoke and cooking odors from suites/cars/motorhomes/etc. Is capabable of doing 40,000 cubic feet according ti literature

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

If you plan on using on vehicles, its a good idea to get one with a ducted output, like the Sonozaires, and the U.S. Products.

 

[Clean Response]

If you plan on using on vehicles, its a good idea to get one with a ducted output, like the Sonozaires, and the U.S. Products.

Why a ducted one... What difference does it make cant you just put it in the car and have it go and keep making with the same air?

 

[Cleanworks]

If you put in a car, you have to Crack the window a little. The machine converts oxygen to ozone so you need some oxygen flow

 

[grizzley]

I have a few ozones. All are shock generators. My smallest is 40000 mg/hour, and my largest is 100,000 mg/hour. They are manufactured by All Ozone and are absolutely amazing. 4-6 hours is all you need for full saturation in 1000 sq ft....Which is what I commonly see in apts. It is not the amount of ozone that causes the issues, it is the length of time ozone is exposed to the area where the problem lies. Where my machines generate a massive amount of ozone in a short time, killing the odor, those small machines have to run for 2-3 days continuously to see the same effect. The longer rubber is exposed, the greater the chance of deterioration.

 

[Nate The Great]

Speaking of Ozone, has anyone ever seen damage done if something is wet?

I've only heard of "stories" that people would tell but I've never experienced it. Maybe @Scott W might have an answer.... He's been around a few times...

 

[Desk Jockey]

It's an industry myth. Just like "you can clean as good with a portable as with a TM."

Seriously the only color damage I have seen was on band new mattresses. The Ozone faded the color a shade lighter than prior to exposure. We had two toned where the were resting up against each other. So we just moved the so all areas could be exposed to the gas and bleached them even.

 

[Nate The Great]

It's an industry myth. Just like "you can clean as good with a portable as with a TM."

Seriously the only color damage I have seen was on band new mattresses. The Ozone faded the color a shade lighter than prior to exposure. We had two toned where the were resting up against each other. So we just moved the so all areas could be exposed to the gas and bleached them even.

I know two toned is only for the Latinos.....

 

[grizzley]

I have never seen color loss, however I have seen the gasket on the fridge become extremely brittle and hard from an apt maint tech running their inhouse generator for 3 days straight.

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

Why a ducted one... What difference does it make cant you just put it in the car and have it go and keep making with the same air?

If you place the unit inside a sealed car, the oxygen will be depleted in short order, and the ozone output will drop to zero, stopping the process.
You want to place the ozone machine outside the car, and blow it into the car, via a taped up window. This will maximize the ozone concentration, also minimizing the treatment time.

Placing the unit in the car, with a cracked window will take much longer to treat the car, as there is no impetus for any in-and-out air movement, and you will both be relying on oxygen to "meander" into the car, as well you will be releasing ozone before it gets a chance to interact with malodorous substances inside the car.

Ducting the ozone in to a confined space is the same principle used for "ozonation rooms", designed to treat objects off-site. You want the ozone machine in the clean (most oxygen laden) air, to make the ozone generation the most efficient.

 

[Cleanworks]

If you place the unit inside a sealed car, the oxygen will be depleted in short order, and the ozone output will drop to zero, stopping the process.
You want to place the ozone machine outside the car, and blow it into the car, via a taped up window. This will maximize the ozone concentration, also minimizing the treatment time.

Placing the unit in the car, with a cracked window will take much longer to treat the car, as there is no impetus for any in-and-out air movement, and you will both be relying on oxygen to "meander" into the car, as well you will be releasing ozone before it gets a chance to interact with malodorous substances inside the car.

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Ducting the ozone in to a confined space is the same principle used for "ozonation rooms", designed to treat objects off-site. You want the ozone machine in the clean (most oxygen laden) air, to make the ozone generation the most efficient.

Good demonstration. I made a duct hose for my oasis generator and have usually used towels to stop up the window but I like the foam. I have an autobody shop that I do work for and it's quite profitable. I like my oasis but am looking for a larger unit. Any recommendations? (tmf=those mofos)

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

Any recommendations?

If you want to step up in capability and are ditching the OASIS, the Sonozaire 330A, with a timer is the way to go. The 5G model is cheaper (newer and lighter), but I don't think you can duct it easily. Not a big deal, if you are keeping your OASIS for that kind of work.

 

[J Scott W]

Speaking of Ozone, has anyone ever seen damage done if something is wet?

I've only heard of "stories" that people would tell but I've never experienced it. Maybe @Scott W might have an answer.... He's been around a few times...

Never saw colors bleach, which is a common story. I have seen rubber seals on appliances and rubber belts on tape players damaged by excessive amounts of ozone. You probably don't have many custoemrs with belt driven tape players anymore.