PRICING COMPARISON OF BUTLER/CLEANCO/HYDRAMASTER CDS

[Desk Jockey]

Don't know of many around here in texas

Not many van powered units down there? Hell even the hacks have van powered units here.

Butler, Hydramaster, White Magic, Cleanco you'll see them all.

 

[rick imby]

Not many van powered units down there? Hell even the hacks have van powered units here.

Butler, Hydramaster, White Magic, Cleanco you'll see them all.

Aren't all your machines van powered? So isn't it obvious even the hacks in your area have van powered?

 

[rick imby]

You also have to take into account the residual value of the system when it's time to sell it.

Everybody isn't like Hagopian who magically seems to sell their used units for 10% less than the fleet deal they get from Butler.

I think your system makes a ton of sense for you guys Brian...

 

[rick imby]

Richard how old was the newest Van powered unit you have sold in the last 10 years? Residual isn't a big factor for you is it?

 

[Brian H]

Everybody isn't like Hagopian who magically seems to sell their used units for 10% less than the fleet deal they get from Butler.

I think your system makes a ton of sense for you guys Brian...

The Butler's do have a pretty good residual value when we sell them.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Aren't all your machines van powered? So isn't it obvious even the hacks in your area have van powered?

No we have slide-in's Prochem Performers too...and we are NOT hacks...anymore.

 

[hogjowl]

Taco is just another Gargan. He's got more different units than Bristor has personalities.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Richard how old was the newest Van powered unit you have sold in the last 10 years? Residual isn't a big factor for you is it?

You looking to buy one? I have a nice 2007, we have 2005 but its a big box.

Seriously we don't put the hours on them some of the real carpet cleaners do.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Taco is just another Gargan. He's got more different units than Bristor has personalities.

Two brands Porksnot.

Prochem & Butler.

 

[hogjowl]

Ok ... so you have the same number as Bristor has personalities.

Big deal!

 

[Desk Jockey]

I do believe you under estimate him.

 

[hogjowl]

He has Asshole and Ofer.

It's just hard to distinguish the two at times ...

 

[bob vawter]

if yous rubes only knew the markup........
how could i possibly sell a brand new Genie wit EVERYTHING brand new for 10 grand and STILL make money off it?
How many have i sold here right under yor nose Mikey?

i wish i were younger..........

 

[Desk Jockey]

i wish i were younger..........

I wish I were too.

I'd like to be in my late twenties again. Good times.

 

[hogjowl]

I knew Bawb when he was younger.

I'm glad he's older.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I didn't like him until MB, he was crazy on the blue board.

Then I understood him, before that I thought he was a total loon...which he is.

 

[rick imby]

You looking to buy one? I have a nice 2007, we have 2005 but its a big box.

Seriously we don't put the hours on them some of the real carpet cleaners do.

Hmm I guess since you don't consider yourselves to be real carpet cleaners YOU are calling you a hack?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Ruttrow!
Dispense enough garbage and some of it is bound to come your way.


I like to think of myself as a "true" specialists, like a hitman.
You need me I'm ready. Did that fly? Yea or nay?

 

[Mark Saiger]

Just learned another thing about the Butler set up today...

Their front fan blade is positioned special, because they cool the entire system....not just the van motor...

Also found out, they trim off the fan shroud so they can get perfect set with the after market fan, and get max cooling, so...can get max heat out of the Butler too.

There is more R&D done so the Butler AND the VAN, get maximum durability....

Just a little something I learned and needed to share....AND...

There might be a Butler "Special offer" at the show too....

 

[Desk Jockey]

I learned that the hard way. We put in an aftermarket water pump and fan and ruined a tranny after a year or more.
The aftermarket is way smaller and doesn't do a sufficient job.

 

[hogjowl]

With that 210 waste, you might as well order two Butlers to carry all your BB Hype tools.

Butlers actually have more storage room than my TCS.

 

[Russ T.]

All this talk about Martin's new Butler makes me want one!

 

[bob vawter]

I didn't like him until MB, he was crazy on the blue board.

that damn Gurkink made me go all nuts in the head
you can't deal wit them damn zombies....

 

[ruff]

He has Asshole and Ofer.

It's just hard to distinguish the two at times ...

The second has an accent.

 

[ruff]

The pro-1200 (I have the 2014, version not the latest) is a great machine.
The few times I actually bothered to look, it was about 230 or so at the machine. Once you get going its pretty steamy at the carpet and feels hot too. Great vacuum.
And so far it has been trouble free.

Tons of storage room with the L shaped recovery tank. And much better priced. Makes residual value meaningless, as you pay a lot less.

 

[rick imby]

All this talk about Martin's new Butler makes me want one!

What would you want a "Martin" for?

 

[Dolly Llama]

OK...ya'll talk about how trouble free the direct drive TM is..

but what about the vans??

are there more repairs on the van it's self compared to running slide-ins??

cooked wiring under the hood
water pumps
Tranny

do they have a higher rate of failure in DD's compared to slide ins??

I've been running slide-in for 25 years.
never blew a tranny, never replaced a water pump , never had a wiring/computer failure.
and only one of the half dozen vans I've owned were new


..L.T.A.

 

[Mark Saiger]

OK...ya'll talk about how trouble free the direct drive TM is..

but what about the vans??

are there more repairs on the van it's self compared to running slide-ins??

cooked wiring under the hood
water pumps
Tranny

do they have a higher rate of failure in DD's compared to slide ins??

I've been running slide-in for 25 years.
never blew a tranny, never replaced a water pump , never had a wiring/computer failure.
and only one of the half dozen vans I've owned were new


..L.T.A.

That's why Butler does to much R&D on their units....

To avoid those kinds of problems...

I just keep finding out how much R&D they do....and get a new surprise it seems every time I talk to them....

We have had units with thousands of Butler hours (and those extra run time miles) as well as the hundreds of thousand road miles on the vans...

One Butler and GMC still going has 250,000 road miles and over 11,000 hours equivalent to about 613,000 miles on the original motor and drive trane.

My brother Kirk, just sold a 2000 GMC and Butler (for $8000 yet) that had 200,000 road miles and 8000 hours on the Butler...equivalent to 464,000 miles on that motor...

Still not taking any oil, think maybe a water pump replaced in that unit once, but not sure....

Any issues I have had with my current newer van have all been Factory recalls (that they finally let us know about being covered)

So....I keep finding out what (and why) Butler does to get max durability out of their units AND VANS!

 

[Russ T.]

Butler is for the carpet cleaner. The guy who wants to push a button and go to work. They have been producing a VERY similar design for like 35 years or something. It probably won't impress the mechanic who LOVES to tinker. I don't like to tinker...at all. I'd rather be cleaning carpet and making $. I can say that Cleanco has fit that bill very well for me as well.

It lets you concentrate on the job at hand, rather than the noisy lawn mower engine that's screaming in the customers driveway. I have way more confidence in the reliability of a van powered system. I feel like it puts out a more polished, professional image to my residential clients too.

If I did restoration, I MIGHT consider a slide in.

 

[Scott S.]

quieter, more profesional, more powerful, less maintenance, less mess all sound good to me.