PTO vs Slide in

[veteran]

This has been an epic battle between owners and techs for years...

My thoughts, I started out on a prochem years ago when they had Nissan engines built into the unit. great machine, heat, vac, and so on... problem using a dry chem rinse always seemed to clog the filters and build up an huge amount of scale in the heat exchanger not to mention oil pressure problems. design flaw or just to much maintenance ?

Thoughts on PTO's
I've had this unit for 10 years low maintenance, had 440k before I had the engine replace. Had a simple setup duel heat exchangers, 4.7 blower and a hell of a water pump.Water to water heat exchanger, Had to grease and lube the blower here and there maintain the van engine and only 2 or 3 times did i have a problem with it... pump and blower drive belts easy fix... can do it yourself without having to spend a fortune on it.
power supply wire if you've been in the business long enough your a damn good trouble shooter(easy fix) if it breaks down you just slap a new or rebuilt engine in it without having to by whole new slide in

 

[bob vawter]

slide-ins...lawn mower engine running at 90% capacity

PTOs....truck engine running at 10 maybe 15% capacity.......

means a LOT when running 7 or 8 hours a day six days a week!

 

[bob vawter]

slide-ins......proprietary parts....(hard to get)

PTOs........standardized components........(easy to find in any larger city)

 

[bob vawter]

side-ins...........expensive LG or kero fueled!

PTOs................FREE HEAT!

 

[bob vawter]

slide-ins..........hard to get at to work on



PTOs.........never HAVE to work on them.!

 

[Desk Jockey]

That big Nissan doesn't look like any lawn mower I've ever seen. :shock:

 

[bob vawter]

That big Nissan doesn't look like any lawn mower I've ever seen. :shock:

how much is it?

 

[joe harper]

That big Nissan doesn't look like any lawn mower I've ever seen. :shock:

NICE lAwnmOweR-enGinE..... :roll:

 

[veteran]

That big Nissan doesn't look like any lawn mower I've ever seen. :shock:

Roger THAT!!!

 

[Desk Jockey]

4-Cylinder 32-HP Nissan in a Bear Cat, Performer or Performer 405
or 62-HP in the Performer 805.

 

[Bob Foster]

Richard you had that unit for sale once a while back. Is it still for sale?

 

[joe harper]

GREATEST SLIDE-IN THAT WILL .........."EVER"........BE BUILT...... :!:

 

[Bob Foster]

GREATEST SLIDE-IN THAT WILL .........."EVER"........BE BUILT...... :!:

Yep.... that's what my wife says to me all the time. somewhat amus

 

[bob vawter]

my Big Red had a 50HP 4 cyl perkins diesel....
it ran for 20 years

 

[joe harper]

GREATEST SLIDE-IN THAT WILL .........."EVER"........BE BUILT...... :!:

Yep.... that's what my wife says to me all the time. somewhat amus

.........................................RIGHT.............................. :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6X6OJYb ... re=related

 

[Desk Jockey]

No not any more, we are using it now.

Several years in a row we had all our trucks out on water losses and I'd go to the back garage and see that monster on the floor. It just pissed me off, so so we bought a used 04 box van and threw it in there.

It still gets low use, mostly big commercial work but it's still seeing more action than on the floor in the garage. :mrgreen:

 

[Jim Martin]

slide in's have come a long way....my first 2 units were P.T.O's....and now I run a slide in with a 4 cylinder 1600 engine.....I will never go back to a PTO unit....

 

[joe harper]

slide in's have come a long way....my first 2 units were P.T.O's....and now I run a slide in with a 4 cylinder 1600 engine.....I will never go back to a PTO unit....

PRETTY MUCH...."Says it ALL".....JIm doesn't BullShiT... !gotcha!

 

[Dolly Llama]

if it breaks down you just slap a new or rebuilt engine in it without having to by whole new slide in

don't know too many cowboys that could "just slap in a new van engine"
many COULD change a "lawnmower" engine though

may as well be a body man and "just slap on" some quarter panels and bondo too...cause the TM will outlast any van


...smoke 'em if you got 'em


..L.T.A.

 

[bob vawter]

if it breaks down you just slap a new or rebuilt engine in it without having to by whole new slide in

don't know too many cowboys that could "just slap in a new van engine"
many COULD change a "lawnmower" engine though

may as well be a body man and "just slap on" some quarter panels and bondo too...cause the TM will outlast any van


...smoke 'em if you got 'em


..L.T.A.

"just slap on" some quarter panels

WTH would DO such a thing......?

 

[floorguy]

No not any more, we are using it now.

Several years in a row we had all our trucks out on water losses and I'd go to the back garage and see that monster on the floor. It just pissed me off, so so we bought a used 04 box van and threw it in there.

It still gets low use, mostly big commercial work but it's still seeing more action than on the floor in the garage. :mrgreen:

is that what your wife says to

 

[Desk Jockey]

No she doesn't want to see it taken out of the box..............truck either.

:mrgreen:

 

[shenglu]

I am angry, so let's use 04 to buy a box van, throw in there. It remains to be using low, mostly large commercial work, but it is still on the floor than in the garage to see more action.

 

[Ron Werner]

are you spamming Donald?

Might need a mod to look into this dude

 

[Desk Jockey]

We dual wanded with the 805 last week on 10,000sq/ft that machine kicked butt. I told my nephew that I've thought about pulling the unit out of that truck because it gets so little use and he said don't.

He said when we need it it's nice to take out to bigger jobs.

 

[Dolly Llama]

are you spamming Donald?

most likely

Might need a mod to look into this dude

i did.
He's got lots of inexpensive flash lights .
Some of 'em look like good bargains

I'm a flash light jUnkie I guess ... I have a BUNCH .
There's 4 of 'em sitting on my desk right now LOL


a 200 lumen big buck Surfire Lumamax LX2 and three lesser aluminum housing lights ranging from 90 lumen to 200 lumen with strobe and strike bezel

bet I have 2 dozen or more of the handy compact hi-output flash lights.
They're in tool boxes, work benches, night stands, glove boxes, etc


there's two brand new 200 lumen lights in the unopened pack on the floor in the office .
i bought 'em a year ago ....

i book marked the spammer's link page though
cause I never know when I'll need a "flashlite fix" 8) 8)


..L.T.A.

 

[Ron Werner]

any black lights??

 

[sam miller]

except for Bobs ptos I couldnt see justifying the price of a pto over a slide in the cost of a reinstall is a lot more also less wear on a vehical also.

 

[Chris A]

I have two trucks, one with a cds, and one with a boxer 421. When we use two trucks, I always get suck using the boxxer because I got tired of my tech or wife calling me because they can't figure out how to run the thing. Personally, I don't prefer one machine over the other, and the 421 is about 7k less.