Red wine stain on linen

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Red wine stain on a grey linen. 3% Peroxide or white cotton cleaner (mild reducer)??
I tend to go the white cotton cleaner, seem to present less of a potential issue (I also spray the entire cushion to avoid halo.
What is you expperience?

Maybe Jim Pemberton can chip in.
 

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Just wrote about it Friday

RED WINE REMOVAL FROM LINEN AND COTTON
by Jim Pemberton - the Fine FabriCare Guy
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A fine fabric specialist recently asked me how to remove red
wine from both a white linen chair and white cotton couch.
(It must have been quite a party!)
A supplier recommended a strong peroxide based stain remover
that is designed for wool rugs. While such a product may
work on wool with pretesting and care, there are definite
risks involved when using peroxide based stain removers on
cellulose fibers like cotton and linen, as well as some far
safer products & procedures to try first:


Strong peroxide stain removers often "overwhiten" and weaken
cellulose fibers.
Before using such products, do the
following:

1. Make sure the customer takes full responsibility for
the issue, as what you are trying to do can bleach,
weaken, or distort the fabric. Get the understanding
in writing.

2. Spray the affected pieces with distilled water, and
while still damp, apply an acidic detergent like
Sapphire Scientific Natural Fiber Cleaner or
Bridgepoint TCU.


3. Brush the solution in gently, and then blot the
stained areas carefully.

4. If you see color transfer, continue to gently blot
(very gently...be patient) until you quit seeing any
color transfer.

5. Rinse with clear, warm (not hot) water.

6. Dry the fabric and repeat again until no more stain
remains. Often wine will come out completely with
acid detergents or spotters without the need to
bleach.

If the procedure doesn't work, allow the fabric to dry, then
apply distilled water again, and follow with a mist of
hydrogen peroxide (3%). Allow it to dry and see if you need
to go further. This takes care of wine stains without
resorting to stronger products that may over whiten and
weaken the fabric.

As always, the risk should be your customers', not yours.
If you would like some guidance on how to talk to your
customers about the risks involved when removing stains from
delicate natural fibers, look at the copy on the back of our
Upholstery Condition Report. CLICK HERE
 
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Ofer;

I would spray the reducing cleaner (like our Haitian Cotton Extraction cleaner) as the first step.

If that does not take all the color out . . .

then I would use the stronger DC Dye Stain Remover (also a reducing agent).

Reducing agents have less potential problems compared to oxidizing agents.

Larry
 
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- Yep. Now that the word is out- I've been shilling for Jim for a long time (he just doesn't know about it). A fine gentleman indeed.
Please do not hesitate to buy from and support the people who support and help us- Pemberton- http://www.ecleanadvisor.com/
Thank you Jim and everybody.


- Jim, I assume that the use of distilled water is to avoid water hardness (trace minerals) and potential water rings as a result.
Wouldn't most products, like the ones you mentioned, contain water softeners, and as such are not likely to leave a ring if the entire piece is wet cleaned evenly and dried relatively quickly?

Or is there another reason? Also I've used in the past white cotton cleaner (substantially reduced dilution. Which as you well know is a reducer boosted to the acid side.) It seem to have worked fine. Any experience with that?

- Dave, you got to be kidding.

- I may be altering the deed Ricardo, as of today Topeka may no longer be on the map of the known carpet cleaning universe. You'd better watch out- you're this close. :winky:

- Thanks Larry, that's what I've used in the past which seemed to have worked (sometime though the reducer can create a halo.) Though, I'm always trying to improve and learn new and safer ways to do it.
 
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Ofer, using distilled water on ANY delicate or antique fabric and some rugs or tapestries has never let me down.
I hardly ever got any water marks with this precaution plus it is an excellent solvent all by itself.

Reducing agents works great but not so well in humid environments.
 
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Thank you for the kind words Ofer.

I use distilled water in this case to prevent water marks that could be caused by applying a spotter in one specific area.

As Tony said, there are times (though not in this case) that water stains may be removed, or at least diminished, by distilled water alone.
 
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