Returned my Ti wand

[CleanEvo]

I bought a Titanium wand last week, been wanting one for a while. Bought it for a big school I was starting this week.

I didn't like it. I used it on half a classroom and put it back in the truck, pulled out my Quad Jet and that works better for me. maybe I got a bad one???

It was too light, kind of bounced around on the carpet too much for my liking.

For those of you who have used a Greenhorn and a Ti... did you find the extra weight on the Greenhorn enough to keep the wand down on the carpet?

 

[Mikey P]

Glided?

 

[CleanEvo]

No... wanted to try it out before ordering a glide.

I know a glide would make a difference, but still it just seemed way too light for me. on the upstroke when you pull back it would tilt really easy and I'd get overspray.

 

[Mikey P]

If the Ti was "bouncing around" with out a glide on than you have serous suck issues with your TM


It should have locked down and beat the shit out of you.



and you're a fool to have gotten rid of it.

 

[CleanEvo]

The wand was a POS.

The jets leaked, the wand lips didn't lay flat, they had a curve in them. It was way too light, to me a wand that my 4 year old can throw around is not a real tool.

To me the only benefit was the width. I'm going to try a Greenhorn, the Ti may be fine for vegitarians, but I'm just way too strong for it.

 

[Mikey P]

fine by me.

 

[steve frasier]

just about every wand I have ever used has bounced on commercial olefin carpet until I put a glide on it

it will leak without the check valves in the jets

yes it sounds stupid for a $1300 wand to leak but my green horn comes in second to my Ti wand

 

[CleanEvo]

Anyone use both?

I thought Greenie mentioned that the Greenhorn was only about half a pound heavier than the Ti. I was hopping it was a little heavier than that.

Maybe I need to go to the island and try Bob's.

 

[CleanEvo]

just about every wand I have ever used has bounced on commercial olefin carpet until I put a glide on it

it will leak without the check valves in the jets

yes it sounds stupid for a $1300 wand to leak but my green horn comes in second to my Ti wand

It's a $1,950 wand up here in Canada, I got a deal and got it for $1,650, but for that money it needs to be perfect.

Why does the Greenhorn come in second to the Ti?

I probably did get a lemon, the wand lips had a curve like a smile, so it would sort of roll side to side, I'm sure that didn't help the wand stay down on the carpet.

 

[steve frasier]

I was raised on your quad jet and a 405 performer, bought a TI wand and never looked back

I am so use to the TI wand is probably the biggest reason the GreenHorn comes in second

 

[davegillfishing]

we have both and i like the greenhorn but frank loves his ti...
i guess i like my greenhorn because i have never really used anything else in the last 5 years and everything else
seems funny feeling to me..frank doesn't mind the greenhorn but will grab the ti if they are next to each other..

 

[R W]

My older Ti wand seems to be heavier, and I use it daily. But when I need some real blasting power in a more contained area, I pull out the Quad. Both are glided.

 

[CleanEvo]

That makes sense, my Quad Jet seemed to clean better as well, but it does have high flow and a glide.

 

[truckmount girl]

A glide would have added just under a pound to the weight, smoothed it on commercial and compensated for the "smile". Then you could go to check valves and jets to eliminate drips.

....or just get a greenhorn. I used both and preferred the ti just slightly more than the Gh, but I used the ti for a lot longer than the GH.

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Bob Foster]

$1650??? That's robbery.

 

[CleanEvo]

Ya, but the wand did smile... not every day you get a smiling wand.

Maybe Ron would like it? It's a Happy Wand.

 

[Bill Soukoreff]

Aris, I really think you will like the Greenhorn. I like the extra weight on the head and prefer the 5 jets. The Greenhorn did seem clumsy at first after using the Titanium for so long, but now I am used to it and actually prefer it.

 

[dealtimeman]

i think you either recieved a defective wand or should of tried it with a glide. both ways i think you are going to regret taking it back.

 

[Greenie]

no he won't.

you guys are forgetting, your long loved Ti wands are ARTIFACTS. they don't build them like that anymore, it's not uncommon to receive a "smiling" wand like Aris got.

Get an oldie or move on an get a GH at 1/2 the price.

and it's a full pound of weight difference once you add in glides, checkvalves etc... 9.5lbs vs: 10.5lbs if memory serves.

you old farts with the good tools need to remember to prequalify your comments with the rough age of your tools, just like year of a TM, an 04 can be a lot different than an 08.

and just for the record, a Ti will NOT outclean a GH, I got $850 that says so, do you?

 

[truckmount girl]

Define "outclean".

While I love both wands, I might be able to use that $850 right now... :wink:

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Greenie]

And so could I :wink:

Side by side, cleaner, drier or your money back.

 

[davegillfishing]

lisa..you will lose on this if you take the bet..i have dont the side by side many times and can
tell you that if you are not in a room watching what side is being cleaned by what wand you will
NEVER be able to tell the difference..if someone gave me a new ti wand i would promptly
sell it and buy 2 greenhorns..no a second thought about it.
dave

 

[Curtis Pennington]

Im with Lisa on this debate...I see no difference in cleaning ability against each other and I give a slight edge to the TI (with accessories) due to 13.5 width, lower profile head and weight....its perfect size for rez.Weight...hmm I feels alot fookin heavier than 1 pound difference, matter fact I will weigh them today. Both are excellent wands and we love them both!

 

[Jimmy L]

Both the quad and Ti locked down for me.
IF you are going to pay big bucks for a wand don't you think those geeky designers who sit in cubicles could make something out of the box that doesn't lock down?

 

[hogjowl]

I have a POS Castex wand, a GreenBean wand and two Titanium wands. I am qualified to tell you which of the three is the best.

But, without something free, I will not endorse anything.

 

[Larry B]

I have a POS Castex wand, a GreenBean wand and two Titanium wands. I am qualified to tell you which of the three is the best.

But, without something free, I will not endorse anything.

Been on MB way too long

 

[truckmount girl]

Marty, they might pay you more to NOT endorse!

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Greenie]

Curtis,
Don't get me wrong, I love the "feel" of my old Ti wand, it was the first wand we ever made glides for sale over, but it really is a question of feel, I just like titanium in the hand. But when it comes to dollars, the GH is king at the 2 for 1 price, and those "accessories" are not an option on the Ti, I put them on and sold them to others to FIX the Ti wand's deficiencies, without the jet extenders and 110 jets, there is a significant center gap, and still to this day you will see this if you try and melt out a gum spot, something the GH shines at with it's CENTERED jet and PERFECTLY uniform placement of it's 5 jets, not to mention the true 45 degree angle makes OverWettign a thing of the past, it's a good technician wand.

A Titanium GH will be the standard to beat.
It's coming.

 

[hogjowl]

I'm waiting for September before I offer my next free endorsement..

 

[steve frasier]

have a POS Castex wand, a GreenBean wand and two Titanium wands. I am qualified to tell you which of the three is the best.

But, without something free, I will not endorse anything.



Been on MB way too long

now he thinks he is Mikey :shock:

you old farts with the good tools need to remember to prequalify your comments with the rough age of your tools, just like year of a TM, an 04 can be a lot different than an 08.

I can live with that comment