Rumor has it that the mills are wanting to work with "us" again
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hogjowl
Idiot™
They been talking about you?
Mikey P
Administrator
Its Sunday, be nice.
Mikey P
Administrator
Let's scale it down, would a flooring retailer continue to refer you to clean the carpets, laminates, faux porcelains and 6 miln LVPs, they sold if you were telling all of their customers that they lied about said products performance?
Or would you keep your mouth shut and possibly take the blame?
Or would you keep your mouth shut and possibly take the blame?
hogjowl
Idiot™
I long for the days of nylon
I wish my grandfather was still alive today to confirm that
Mikey P
Administrator
Great question
There's a team of board members with big hearts working on this and maybe they got better ideas than my negative outlook on the situation, I'll let you know which things developed
icleancarpetz
Member
Meanwhile, guys keep doing a great job, service well, get it cleaned, service with a smile even when you want to sink your claws into homeowner, price it fair, price it well if your dam good at it, respect the rules, do not cut corners and finally do not depend on a patch on your sleeve for the phones to ring. Have fun while working and interacting with homeowner. They will remember the energy you bring with you into their home / space.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Whistle while you work
Mikey P
Administrator
I was whistling while I was walmarting the other day... one of the employees tapped me on the shoulder to make me turn my earbuds down to tell me what a wonderful job I was doing with "It's a sunshiny day"
icleancarpetz
Member
Dolly Llama
Number 5
is that the root of it for you?
as far as "educating" the consumer and the conflict you perceive between the "mechanic" (us) and the retailer and manufacturer's products, you can do that without dogging them.
Unless the manufacture or retailer are telling consumers 32oz poly cut pile is as good 60oz solution died nylon, I really don't see the conflict
It's as simple as "you get what you pay for" isn't it?
you absolutely should have a relationship with the mills.
It's foolish not to, as you shouldn't see them as the "enemy" or have an adversarial relationship because consumers are buying cheaper/less durable goods when manufactures also make, good, better, best products on the shelf right next to the cheap crap
..L.T.A.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Mikey bangs his head on the wall the same way.
Mikey P
Administrator
I have the same recent discussion with some mill reps at an IICRC meeting.
I think you're a little too used to selling substandard/ garbage products yourself to be able to understand where I'm coming from
They tried to give me the analogy that there are Lexus customers and there are Toyota customers in relationship to their high-end and low-end products. To which I had to laugh in their face and say a Toyota will get you the work safely and do just about anything you ask of it. While you're low-end, products are barely you more useful than a layer of cardboard on the floor, and yet you lie about it on the end caps at the home Depot about how impervious it is to water and foot traffic and pet urine and so on and so forth. And then you imply that the customer got what they paid for which is an absolute line of BS
Mikey P
Administrator
Happy Sunday meAtrope!
Dolly Llama
Number 5
you're just showing your ignorance now, Mike
well then, you should start an IICRC campaign directed to false advertising mills and retailers are doing.
see how that goes
..L.T.A.
Mikey P
Administrator
hogjowl
Idiot™
How did that oil get so black posting all day?
Mikey P
Administrator
Your siding with the manufacturers Larry because you yourself snooker customers about the durability of ( some) the products you're installing.
Call me an idealist but I believe in truth in advertising.
and not the F em all, let gawd sort them out mentality you are clearly displaying.
Call me an idealist but I believe in truth in advertising.
and not the F em all, let gawd sort them out mentality you are clearly displaying.
Mikey P
Administrator
108 hours
Mikey P
Administrator
( 78 of which were while I was padding but wanted them to think I was actually extracting)
Cleanworks
Moderator
we still have good quality nylon carpets available here. Not at Home Depot though. The Higher quality flooring stores have nylon but much more expensive than the Iroquois stupid strand carpets. When my customers are re-carpeting, I always advise them to go with the best nylon they can afford. I also have a few stores I recommend for them to go to that sell premium products.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
again, you're just talking out your azz and showing your utter arrogant fool self you're known for.
The last floor I installed a couple years ago, was engineered hardwood
(1/2" plywood with 1/32" Brazilian cherry veneer)
I tried to talk her into full 3/4" solid tongue & groove from a local saw mill
you only think that because you're stupid.
If you're on a crusade to stamp out misleading or "best case scenario" marketing malarkey, I'd suggest you start with those the IICRC are focused on....the CC'er
Start with those pushing protectant on every POS poly rag.
Then jump on the virus "bug sprayers"
Then go to the fckin padders that rely on deceptive marketing
or...dog Harbor Freight because you bought a cheap product (they said was great) instead of paying double for known better
your ire is misplaced.
..L.T.A.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
it was
In spite of the Browns doing everything they could to lose the game, they managed to win
..L.T.A.
Granted it was only one location but it was quite a large flooring distributor.
Decades ago. I purchased a large amount of sheet Goods and had somebody install in my kitchen.
When shopping there and talking to the sales people I had conversations about the different types of carpet.
charachteristics, pros, cons etc. material from IICRC etc. as well as many articles from Cleanfax etc. (Whitcamp was always a good read .)
Took a lot of the available material in for them. It was new to them, and they were absolutely not interested.
Decades ago. I purchased a large amount of sheet Goods and had somebody install in my kitchen.
When shopping there and talking to the sales people I had conversations about the different types of carpet.
charachteristics, pros, cons etc. material from IICRC etc. as well as many articles from Cleanfax etc. (Whitcamp was always a good read .)
Took a lot of the available material in for them. It was new to them, and they were absolutely not interested.
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Mikey P
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Mikey P
Administrator
I suppose you are OK wiht this deceptive advertising.
Im not.
Im not.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
those weren't insults.
They were just pointing out realities that everyone in the whole world sees but YOU
..L.T.A.
Mikey P
Administrator
everyone?
in your circle, maybe.
in your circle, maybe.
