Running 2" vacuum hose through hole in sliding door. Any issues?

[ruff]

I'm installing my new pro-1200 in a van with a sliding door and have some concern.
I always run with locked doors. In my previous van, always a CDS and I put a trap door in floor which worked great. Due to the way the Pro-1200 is designed it will be harder to do.

1. Therefore if I put a whole in sliding door, it will be only about 1 to 2 feet from connection, will that create a problem with opening or closing door (which we'll have to do) while hose is hooked up? Seems to me like it will put some stress on connection.
2. Will area of hole eventually rust?
3. Any other potential issues?

Any other Pro-1200 owners here?
Josh Adler, Joe Applebe, Ben Surdi, others?

 

[hogjowl]

That explains why Butler puts their porks on the latch side of the door.

I always wondered.

 

[JS41035]

Porks lol


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[ruff]

Officially, I was under the impression, that there should be one to the point response before the thread gets derailed and goes to the dogs.

Evidently, I was wrong.

 

[Jim Martin]

I'm installing my new pro-1200 in a van with a sliding door and have some concern.
I always run with locked doors. In my previous van, always a CDS and I put a trap door in floor which worked great. Due to the way the Pro-1200 is designed it will be harder to do.

1. Therefore if I put a whole in sliding door, it will be only about 1 to 2 feet from connection, will that create a problem with opening or closing door (which we'll have to do) while hose is hooked up? Seems to me like it will put some stress on connection.
2. Will area of hole eventually rust?
3. Any other potential issues?

Any other Pro-1200 owners here?
Josh Adler, Joe Applebe, Ben Surdi, others?

Going off the picture on the 1200 it has the same vacuum port and about in the same location...turn it and re-plumb it out one of the back barn doors.......

 

[FB7777]

Why not just run it through the side door step?

 

[Mark Saiger]

I think the Butler port holes (Pork holes for Marty) would work and be on no problem.

They are really nice units. Bit more money, but definitely thought out and the best I have seen.

I run two port (pork) holes because we run 2.5 inch hose and it takes up most of the room of one of the holes.

http://butlersystem.com/pop_second-hose-guide-and-security-door.html

 

[Mark Saiger]

 

[hogjowl]

Officially, I was under the impression, that there should be one to the point response before the thread gets derailed and goes to the dogs.

Evidently, I was wrong.

I thought my response was targeting the heart of your question. If you put the pork hole immediately opposite to the hose reel, you can't open the door. If you put it at the other end of the door, the slack created allows you to open the door and not create stress on it.

 

[Mark Saiger]

Some videos...first one is exclusive of the Butler Doors

The first one is a walk around of the Port hole doors. Maybe can get some ideas of how they can work with any system....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDoTjPeHsjc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BA72I2Nuos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wwJOeLn2hw

 

[ruff]

• Jim, the cds ports are on top of recovery tank, on pro 1200 they are at bottom right side (very close to the end of the sliding door front side. Trying to avoid running from back door.
• Fred, the side step is a possibility though it will have an extra bend (a little loss of vacuum) and may force me to put the chemical jug somewhere else. Working with a standard size van (a necessity in S.F.) and trying to maximize space, as I have the baaaaaaad habit of carrying a lot of chemicals and equipment with me.
• Mark, that is very neat and thanks for the pictures. Is opening or closing while hose in create any issue? What's the distance from door to where hookup is?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Put a loop on a section of vacuum hose that connects from the tank to the door opening. Long enough that the door can be opened completely while still hooked up, short enough that an elastic cord can lift up the slack when it is closed and running.

 

[Mark Saiger]

Hopefully you just got a chance to see the videos posted (while you were both posting your threads)

The videos will maybe help with all the ideas mentioned.

Mark

 

[Jim Martin]

• Jim, the cds ports are on top of recovery tank, on pro 1200 they are at bottom right side (very close to the end of the sliding door front side. Trying to avoid running from back door.
• Fred, the side step is a possibility though it will have an extra bend (a little loss of vacuum) and may force me to put the chemical jug somewhere else. Working with a standard size van (a necessity in S.F.) and trying to maximize space, as I have the baaaaaaad habit of carrying a lot of chemicals and equipment with me.
• Mark, that is very neat and thanks for the pictures. Is opening or closing while hose in create any issue? What's the distance from door to where hookup is?

yours is right where mine on the 570 is...its a tight fit...and I am not sure you going to get enough bend out of a hose to go into a port hole and still have a moving sliding door....if you manage to get a bend in it then I would put a travel loop in the hose so it can roll with the door.............

 

[ruff]

Marty, are you talking live vacuum hose reel? (which I don't have).

The connection with the pro-1200 is at front side of sliding door, which will allow for a foot or two. I could move it back. If I put the hole in door on the back side of door, it will create more of a slack and add a band (slight loss of vacuum.)

 

[hogjowl]

I think the way you place the hole doesn't matter, now that I think about it. Because , you're going to have to put a loop in the hose either way; whether to close the door or to open it.

So, basically your question is pointless and you should stop over-thinking the issue.

 

[ruff]

yours is right where mine on the 570 is...its a tight fit...and I am not sure you going to get enough bend out of a hose to go into a port hole and still have a moving sliding door....if you manage to get a bend in it then I would put a travel loop in the hose so it can roll with the door.............

Jim, what's a travel loop?

Put a loop on a section of vacuum hose that connects from the tank to the door opening. Long enough that the door can be opened completely while still hooked up, short enough that an elastic cord can lift up the slack when it is closed and running.

Lee, due to my dis-mechanical inclination and general intelligence issues, I am not sure I follow. Could you explain more or have a picture. And what would be the elastic cord?

Marty, I can't help it. In case you haven't noticed, I'm the thinking type. That however, does not mean I don't have feelings. Would you like me to elaborate?

 

[Jim Martin]

Jim, what's a travel loop?


Lee, due to my dis-mechanical inclination and general intelligence issues, I am not sure I follow. Could you explain more or have a picture. And what would be the elastic cord?

Marty, I can't help it. In case you haven't noticed, I'm the thinking type. That however, does not mean I don't have feelings. Would you like me to elaborate?

a circle......hook to the vacuum port....run hose hose down the floor put about a 2 foot circle in it and put it threw the hole.......wala...a travel loop........it will move the hose freely with the door and nothing will bind up........

 

[hogjowl]

Which is what Lee is trying to tell you.

 

[GCCLee]

Go to the Auto parts store and getcha one of those custom chrome gas lids.






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[Steve CGD guy]

Do it like Aerotech and Vortex did it. Plumb exhaust tube from the hose hookups to a spot under the step and put starter cuffs on the end.

 

[Kings carpet]

hi Ofer i'm install two ports in the door step View attachment 4703 pm your number and i send you more pics thanks

 

[GCCLee]

I run out the back of our rig, through the floorboard. Behind drivers rear tire.

Love being able to lock the doors at times!


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[Scott S.]

How do you keep the hose from pulling back out the window?

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[Desk Jockey]

Since you don't have to worry about freezing why not just mount a manifold outside the vehicle beneath the door. Run the plumbing down through the floor and to the manifold.

That way you don't even have to screw with cutting on the door.

 

[Mark Saiger]

How do you keep the hose from pulling back out the window?

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Use a hose hook.

I like the Super Strap that also holds my hoses too when wrapped up.

Anyone got a pic of a super strap....

Couldn't find a link on Superior Cleaning Solutions web site.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I will only trust engineering wire.