slip and fall hazard

sassyotto

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years ago I was asked to be an expert witness (evidently they didnt know me that well) for a local legal case where a lady asked the cleaner if it was safe to walk down the steps and he said yes. She walked down carpeted steps that were just cleaned and slipped on foyer tile and twisted her ankle that got caught under a hot water baseboard heater . She will never be able to walk correctly again.

Just got a call from another attorney from another state where the cleaner was cleaning a room and oversprayed on a hard floor. The lady (70 y/o) never walked on the carpet but did walk on the puddle of cleaning agent and slipped and fell.

They asked if there was any standard procedure that would have prevented this. I told them about the IICRC and Carpet Cleaning Standard. I only have the first Standard and the only thing mentioned about safety is on page 14.

F. Pre-Cleaning/Post-Cleaning Inspection Checklist for Professional Cleaners:
1.a.Provide for consumer and worker safety

I also mentioned that in addition to verbally warning the customer about slippery conditions during the cleaning process to also put slip hazard signs on hard surfaces that abut carpet that was just cleaned and even having a slip hazard warning written on the invoice.

So my questions are:
-Are there more safety guidelines in the newer Standard versions pertaining to slip and fall?
-Other than the IICRC, are there any other publications that would instruct a company to inform the customer of the risks of slip and fall?
-In addition to finding out the cleaners experience and training, what should the attorney ask the person that did the cleaning?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thank you!
 

Kenny Hayes

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I don't care what you put in writing or how much you caution people, you really can't fix stupid! Obviously I've dealt with it A LOT refinishing floors. If they're hell bent on hurting themselves, there's no amount of writing or caution you can throw out there. Always remind them what you've just done, and remember you were there🤷🏼‍♂️
 

bob vawter

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years ago I was asked to be an expert witness (evidently they didnt know me that well) for a local legal case where a lady asked the cleaner if it was safe to walk down the steps and he said yes. She walked down carpeted steps that were just cleaned and slipped on foyer tile and twisted her ankle that got caught under a hot water baseboard heater . She will never be able to walk correctly again.

Just got a call from another attorney from another state where the cleaner was cleaning a room and oversprayed on a hard floor. The lady (70 y/o) never walked on the carpet but did walk on the puddle of cleaning agent and slipped and fell.

They asked if there was any standard procedure that would have prevented this. I told them about the IICRC and Carpet Cleaning Standard. I only have the first Standard and the only thing mentioned about safety is on page 14.

F. Pre-Cleaning/Post-Cleaning Inspection Checklist for Professional Cleaners:
1.a.Provide for consumer and worker safety

I also mentioned that in addition to verbally warning the customer about slippery conditions during the cleaning process to also put slip hazard signs on hard surfaces that abut carpet that was just cleaned and even having a slip hazard warning written on the invoice.

So my questions are:
-Are there more safety guidelines in the newer Standard versions pertaining to slip and fall?
-Other than the IICRC, are there any other publications that would instruct a company to inform the customer of the risks of slip and fall?
-In addition to finding out the cleaners experience and training, what should the attorney ask the person that did the cleaning?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thank you!
Yellow police tape perhaps?
 

bob vawter

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Does anyone use brown paper as a safe area for walking I don't but have heard of it not sure if it really works.
Body shop supply stores sell rolls of masking paper...it's real thin but poly coated on both sides. I could stand on it while writing an invoice without it soaking thru.....and it's green
...I had customers that would reschedule if I happened to be out! Cost me $18 for a 250' roll....18" wide
Probably more now!
 
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Dwain Ray

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years ago I was asked to be an expert witness (evidently they didnt know me that well) for a local legal case where a lady asked the cleaner if it was safe to walk down the steps and he said yes. She walked down carpeted steps that were just cleaned and slipped on foyer tile and twisted her ankle that got caught under a hot water baseboard heater . She will never be able to walk correctly again.

Just got a call from another attorney from another state where the cleaner was cleaning a room and oversprayed on a hard floor. The lady (70 y/o) never walked on the carpet but did walk on the puddle of cleaning agent and slipped and fell.

They asked if there was any standard procedure that would have prevented this. I told them about the IICRC and Carpet Cleaning Standard. I only have the first Standard and the only thing mentioned about safety is on page 14.

F. Pre-Cleaning/Post-Cleaning Inspection Checklist for Professional Cleaners:
1.a.Provide for consumer and worker safety

I also mentioned that in addition to verbally warning the customer about slippery conditions during the cleaning process to also put slip hazard signs on hard surfaces that abut carpet that was just cleaned and even having a slip hazard warning written on the invoice.

So my questions are:
-Are there more safety guidelines in the newer Standard versions pertaining to slip and fall?
-Other than the IICRC, are there any other publications that would instruct a company to inform the customer of the risks of slip and fall?
-In addition to finding out the cleaners experience and training, what should the attorney ask the person that did the cleaning?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thank you!
I can't help your customers, but i can help you when it comes to slip and fall. Switch your shoes to these skechers. After a fall on some slippery tile stairs i searched and found these. A dishwasher at a local restaurant iwas cleaning turned me on to them. I was slip slidin around the kitchen and he showed that even on a greasy tile floor they hold strong. I now have 3 pair on hand always, one i wear and two new in the closet in case they get backordered on me when i need them. A pair generally speaking lasts about 9 months to a year but there the only shoe i wear and im pretty hard on um. An added bonus is they are extremely light and very comfortable and seem to be highly resistant to carpet cleaning chemicals. Try um and let us all know what you think.

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I can't help your customers, but i can help you when it comes to slip and fall. Switch your shoes to these skechers. After a fall on some slippery tile stairs i searched and found these. A dishwasher at a local restaurant iwas cleaning turned me on to them. I was slip slidin around the kitchen and he showed that even on a greasy tile floor they hold strong. I now have 3 pair on hand always, one i wear and two new in the closet in case they get backordered on me when i need them. A pair generally speaking lasts about 9 months to a year but there the only shoe i wear and im pretty hard on um. An added bonus is they are extremely light and very comfortable and seem to be highly resistant to carpet cleaning chemicals. Try um and let us all know what you think.

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Dwain,
Just ordered me a pair.

Thank You!!!
 

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4 years ago some piece of shit moved to Idaho from San diego. My son was cleaning her living room and she walked across the carpet and slipped on the hardwood floor. She laid there for a half hour and her husband called 911 to come hoist her ass off the floor. A couple of months later I got a letter from her husband stating that they were going to seek damages against my company. And strangely enough, he just happened to be a personal injury attorney. Pretty suspicious. My insurance company did their investigation and stated that they found no negligence on my part. The ass wipes ended up backing off because it was a BS claim.
I would never help a lawyer sue someone. 99% of the time its BS.
 

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years ago I was asked to be an expert witness (evidently they didnt know me that well) for a local legal case where a lady asked the cleaner if it was safe to walk down the steps and he said yes. She walked down carpeted steps that were just cleaned and slipped on foyer tile and twisted her ankle that got caught under a hot water baseboard heater . She will never be able to walk correctly again.

Just got a call from another attorney from another state where the cleaner was cleaning a room and oversprayed on a hard floor. The lady (70 y/o) never walked on the carpet but did walk on the puddle of cleaning agent and slipped and fell.

They asked if there was any standard procedure that would have prevented this. I told them about the IICRC and Carpet Cleaning Standard. I only have the first Standard and the only thing mentioned about safety is on page 14.

F. Pre-Cleaning/Post-Cleaning Inspection Checklist for Professional Cleaners:
1.a.Provide for consumer and worker safety

I also mentioned that in addition to verbally warning the customer about slippery conditions during the cleaning process to also put slip hazard signs on hard surfaces that abut carpet that was just cleaned and even having a slip hazard warning written on the invoice.

So my questions are:
-Are there more safety guidelines in the newer Standard versions pertaining to slip and fall?
-Other than the IICRC, are there any other publications that would instruct a company to inform the customer of the risks of slip and fall?
-In addition to finding out the cleaners experience and training, what should the attorney ask the person that did the cleaning?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thank you!
you're a douchebag Paul
 
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Kenny Hayes

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4 years ago some piece of shit moved to Idaho from San diego. My son was cleaning her living room and she walked across the carpet and slipped on the hardwood floor. She laid there for a half hour and her husband called 911 to come hoist her ass off the floor. A couple of months later I got a letter from her husband stating that they were going to seek damages against my company. And strangely enough, he just happened to be a personal injury attorney. Pretty suspicious. My insurance company did their investigation and stated that they found no negligence on my part. The ass wipes ended up backing off because it was a BS claim.
I would never help a lawyer sue someone. 99% of the time its BS.
I've told the story of the choir director that crawled over my auto scrubber blocking a hallway we were laying finish on and fell and wrenched his back. I wanted to finish mopping the floor with his ass! That was just one!
 

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In my opinion, there’s not many men more worthless than a music minister. Drama … always drama … and there as narcissistic as Mikey.
 

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A dealership i do quarterly wanted me to just run my hose through the showroom while customers were still there.
I just laughed and rescheduled.
Sometimes doing the right thing is just so obvious even I know better.
 
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