Welshmalc
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What can a portable do that a steamin demon can't do and visa Versa ?
steamin demon
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Onfire_02_01
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steps
Onfire_02_01
Member
Steamin demon is a fine portable as long as all you are doing is flat carpet. Steps and upholstery baffle a steamin demon. I know they have an attachment but it still isn't the same.
If you are doing apartments or restaurants you will be fine with a demon.
If you are doing apartments or restaurants you will be fine with a demon.
Mikey P
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Like using a back hoe to mow now your 300 feet of sod..
Mikey P
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Life, whether it be work, hobbies, sex, church or excersize, should be enjoyable and motivating..
Using that tool every day would really...blow.
Using that tool every day would really...blow.
Old Coastie
Supportive Member
How is your new setup doing, Shorty?
Welshmalc
Member
Perhaps owning both would be the best option.....I'm British so I don't know what a back hoe is Mikey P. Sorry!
Mikey P
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hogjowl
Idiot™
You were thinking it was a whore he kept out back?
grizzley
Member
It all depends on what you want to use it on.......Vacant apts, from what I have found is where the demon is nice to have, especially on those jobs where its not practical to drag hoses......Occupied residences, or really any place that you can reach with a hose, then I'd opt for that route. One of the huge downfalls of the demon is foam. Because the tank is soooooooo small, it doesnt take much to cause issues, and with any small tank porty, you'll funnel tons of defoamer to keep it to a minimal........But as a back up, or if all you see is vacants, then by all means, its far better than a porty.
Desk Jockey
Member
LOL
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
When I used mine I quickly drained the household water heater of hot water and I was soon working with unpressurized cold water.
Onfire_02_01
Member
yeah, it isn't a great residential cleaning unit. It will work great in places that have large water heaters and are use to high flows like apartment complexes and restaurants.
Welshmalc
Member
Thanks, mostly residential so a portable with a heater is the way I will go .didnt fancy depending on residents hot water
Mikey P
Administrator
if that machine was a winner, there would be multiple knock offs by now.
Do you need a portable to use on each and every job all year long?
Finding the right balance of lightweight, maneuverability, water capacity and versatility wont be easy.
@Willy P and @Goomer are our resident Portable gurus, hopefully they can guide you sensibly.
Do you need a portable to use on each and every job all year long?
Finding the right balance of lightweight, maneuverability, water capacity and versatility wont be easy.
@Willy P and @Goomer are our resident Portable gurus, hopefully they can guide you sensibly.
The advantage to a Demon is very high waterflow--and recovery--I put a valve on mine to be able to adjust it depending on facilty pressure. I keep a bottle of defoamer (dry) on my machine and put it down on the carpet in the spots that foam up.. easy to figure out.
Auto feed and auto dump are standard and very simple to hookup. I remove the shower head or hook to the laundry hot water if the washer isn't there. Whereas it is a lot more of a hassle using a porty with auto feed and auto dump (my opinion).
I have found if you use a little agitation they clean fine with cold water and good chems---I have cleaned apts with the water heater off.
It is obvious Mikey has used one... Backhoe lawn mower says it all. If you do not have a glide on it you cannot move it forward without lifting the vacuum off the carpet. Always moving backwards drives me more nuts. Mine is the classic model, they make a model that you can reverse and move in the other direction, sorta.
Steps are a problem. I have never had the extension to do steps and upholstery.
I believe recovery is higher than most porties with the demon---tiny waste tank and the vacuum is right there.
I have a little $29 shop vac to suck all the junk out of my waste tank... works great.
One 15 amp outlet is all you will ever need. With a Porty you gotta have two circuits, if you want heat you need three.
Minivan or even a basic station wagon will easily haul demon, hoses and something to agitate with.
I met a guy that uses his Demons to do apartments. He has been doing it for several years. TM, Porty, Demon---he claims the demon is much simpler and faster.---his opinion.
By the way, US products made a knock off.
I am just a hobbiest, I only clean my rental apartments.
Auto feed and auto dump are standard and very simple to hookup. I remove the shower head or hook to the laundry hot water if the washer isn't there. Whereas it is a lot more of a hassle using a porty with auto feed and auto dump (my opinion).
I have found if you use a little agitation they clean fine with cold water and good chems---I have cleaned apts with the water heater off.
It is obvious Mikey has used one... Backhoe lawn mower says it all. If you do not have a glide on it you cannot move it forward without lifting the vacuum off the carpet. Always moving backwards drives me more nuts. Mine is the classic model, they make a model that you can reverse and move in the other direction, sorta.
Steps are a problem. I have never had the extension to do steps and upholstery.
I believe recovery is higher than most porties with the demon---tiny waste tank and the vacuum is right there.
I have a little $29 shop vac to suck all the junk out of my waste tank... works great.
One 15 amp outlet is all you will ever need. With a Porty you gotta have two circuits, if you want heat you need three.
Minivan or even a basic station wagon will easily haul demon, hoses and something to agitate with.
I met a guy that uses his Demons to do apartments. He has been doing it for several years. TM, Porty, Demon---he claims the demon is much simpler and faster.---his opinion.
By the way, US products made a knock off.
I am just a hobbiest, I only clean my rental apartments.
Desk Jockey
Member
I liked the Tsunami just because it had more metal than plastic. I just about bought one a few times but some how always bought something else.
Onfire_02_01
Member
The Tsunami was made of Stainless Steel and the steamin demon was aluminum body on a steal handle. I think right?
Desk Jockey
Member
I'm not sure. Rick?
The closest I came to one was on Ebay.
The closest I came to one was on Ebay.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Wonder where they stole the handle from?
Desk Jockey
Member
I thought they had the rights to built it. Joint venture.
Nate The Great
Member
I thought they were joint venture also...
http://www.foleydistributing.com/ca...-Agitator-20-Self-Contained-Carpet-Extractor/
Here's the US Products Agitator...I do think it's discontinued though... I also looked into one way back when Steve Andrews posted here regarding the Steamin Demons.... His process is pretty good, but he does use a 15" Cimex to scrub before running the SD over it... He's a seasoned cleaner and knows how to use it to his advantage....
I bought a Steamin Demon off ebay and a glide for it too... Someone said it worked great for extracting pit-washed rugs, but it wasn't the best extraction for me.... Maybe I didn't give it enough use to get around the learning curve, but I'd just fire up my TM and pull more water than the SD could suck... I haven't used it on a Carpet cleaning job, only water extraction... It sits on a shelf over head and out of mind until I look up and kick myself for buying it... I have the High Pressure model and the hoses do weight more than the unit itself... I have always wanted to try it on the crappy rental high-rise job but haven't took the time to take it off the shelf...
Welshmalc
Member
My problem is there are a LOT of condos in my area, and a lot of them don't allow tm so a steamin demon or a portable is the only option apart from vlm
Desk Jockey
Member
I'd much rather have the Demon than a portable.
Cleanworks
Moderator
The portable is always more flexible. With the sd, you might be in a condo that doesn't have a place to hook up to. Many new condos have the type of faucets without the screw on/off aerators. Hooking up to a washing machine is possible but can be messy. You can find portables with auto fill/dump where it's practical. Check out some of the mytee line up or the nautilus. Make sure the amperage of the machine is easily obtainable in the places you are most likely to use it.
Desk Jockey
Member
No!
I refuse to check them out. I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate portables.
Sorry I got stuck there for a second.
I refuse to check them out. I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate portables.
Sorry I got stuck there for a second.
Cleanworks
Moderator
That's just because you have options. You personally, don't have to use one, anymore.
Desk Jockey
Member
We all have choices! Some of us just choose to abuse ourselves...no Nate, not that kind of abuse. 
