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I got tired of the westpak tile junk wand. And my uph tool needed to be upgraded and we all need an extra stair tool.

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That is about the badest ass stair tool ever. I got the straight one, 1530, I gotta check that one out you got. I use it as my vacuum before my greenglide destroys it.
 
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I use to have the hard surface wand

I could make a handsom profit selling it.

Have they moved the manifolds out of the head yet?
 

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I think they're still in the head

I think this is built better than the westpak. and the 12" swivel tells me it'll have better extraction with the head being smaller and it'll get in tighter spaces
 

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I got tired of the westpak tile junk wand. And my uph tool needed to be upgraded and we all need an extra stair tool.

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First things I've had to do to these tools to make them perform:
-Remove the rubber lips on the tile wand. It prevents proper extraction because it pushes the treatment away from the tool
- Order the high pressure valve (due to truck mount heat damaging the stock valve) with the upholstery tool and goop the hell out of it all around the holes from the valve and where the jet goes inside of it. PMF...you really need to redesign this tool to prevent air leakage. I know this because my old internal jet tool doesn't use the internal valve setup and the hole that the jet goes through is designed smaller to not affect any vac loss. If you look at the picture of the upholstery tool above, you can see all the open leak areas I'm talking about
 

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First things I've had to do to these tools to make them perform:
-Remove the rubber lips on the tile wand. It prevents proper extraction because it pushes the treatment away from the tool
- Order the high pressure valve (due to truck mount heat damaging the stock valve) with the upholstery tool and goop the hell out of it all around the holes from the valve and where the jet goes inside of it. PMF...you really need to redesign this tool to prevent air leakage. I know this because my old internal jet tool doesn't use the internal valve setup and the hole that the jet goes through is designed smaller to not affect any vac loss. If you look at the picture of the upholstery tool above, you can see all the open leak areas I'm talking about
It looks to me like they make junk.
 

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I still haven’t even got it out of the trailer, so I wouldn’t know. I might give it a go when school starts and see if I can do something with it😂 We’re janitors over here, after all.
 

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Im a big fan of PMF
Now I got the DBL plumbed up and it is just awesome.
My tip would be ditch the handles on the PMF1530 and DBL
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BTW, PMF haa the best cuffs and joiners. The joiners are stainless and no air leaks, black soft rubber cuffs. Stay together and are simple. Stainless joiners are precision.
 

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Im a big fan of PMF


BTW, PMF haa the best cuffs and joiners. The joiners are stainless and no air leaks, black soft rubber cuffs. Stay together and are simple. Stainless joiners are precision.
I agree with the cuffs and joiners. Nothing's better than those

I wasn't saying they were a bad product. I'm enjoying the tile wand after I adjusted it. And I'm a little disappointed with the upholstery tool, but it cleans great now. I was more frustrated how they were trying to compete with the plastic tools from HM and SS by making the valve more internal. It just seems like an unfinished product they decided to put out in the market for us to deal with
 

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The internal valve option on the upholstery tool is a joke. It leaks so much air, causing terrible cleaning and dry time. I tried gooping it, then had to replace the valve with a high pressure/high temp because they didn’t listen to me when I said I use a truckmount. When I replaced it, I broke the jet trying to screw everything together. So I said F@$? It and just ordered another one that wasn’t internal valve.

Don’t get the internal valve model. It leaks air

The second pic is the external valve model that works properly

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The internal valve option on the upholstery tool is a joke. It leaks so much air, causing terrible cleaning and dry time. I tried gooping it, then had to replace the valve with a high pressure/high temp because they didn’t listen to me when I said I use a truckmount. When I replaced it, I broke the jet trying to screw everything together. So I said F@$? It and just ordered another one that wasn’t internal valve.

Don’t get the internal valve model. It leaks air

The second pic is the external valve model that works properly

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How's the long term fatigue from that style tile wand? Also why did you goop the jet hole I didn't personally feel like mine leaked enough there to matter. I don't see where you gooped the valve portion. Am I missing something?
 

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How's the long term fatigue from that style tile wand? Also why did you goop the jet hole I didn't personally feel like mine leaked enough there to matter. I don't see where you gooped the valve portion. Am I missing something?
I gooped the valve portion also. The goop wasn’t there when I took it apart. If the valve portion was sealed up better, there’s be no need to goop the jet hole. It’s just an incomplete design. Or better to say unfinished. It has potential, just needs more than just a quick cut in the metal for the valve.
 
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I gooped the valve portion also. The goop wasn’t there when I took it apart. If the valve portion was sealed up better, there’s be no need to goop the jet hole. It’s just an incomplete design. Or better to say unfinished. It has potential, just needs more than just a quick cut in the metal for the valve.
Oh yea I remember you explaining that now. You're right weird design on that one for sure. Love the pmf tools they're great. Appreciate you're recommendations on them bro.
 

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