I bitch a lot about portables. But my EDIC is a life saver at times
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The most powerful portable available?
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Cleanworks
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Imagine your EDIC with another 6 inches of lift hg, that's what the Monsoon will be like.
No thanks. Portys depress me
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Hack Attack
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Papa John
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Its not too bad once you get a system down.
The other day I had a $312 job that took 90 minutes.
I added our $100 portable fee to that amount. The customer Tipped me an additional $85!
I'm thinking of marketing a Green, Reduced carbon emissions cleaning service that uses a porty/ETM.
It would also overcome the parking requirement we place on our customers.
Sierra Clean Care
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I’m really considering getting this portable. We turn down between 6-10 jobs a week because we don’t do porty work....
It’s not that I’m turning into @Old Coastie, it’s the fact that I’m losing out on a bunch of $$$$$.....
Sorry Stephen, no insult intended....
It’s not that I’m turning into @Old Coastie, it’s the fact that I’m losing out on a bunch of $$$$$.....
Sorry Stephen, no insult intended....
Jack Zipper Zerkie
Member
TheEDIC 500psi has 2- 3 stage vacs. Mine does works great just wont go up stairs due to the weight & low profile handle in rear.
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
I think the Monsoon design would be hard to get up stairs as well. I prefer taller over longer shell designs.
Most employees hate working with a porty-- That's why we charge a $100 fee, but we started at $50.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Most portables have molded in handles that make it awkward to go up stairs. It would be nice if they brought back the old folding handles that EDIC used to use on their aquafresh machines.
Old Coastie
Supportive Member
None taken. As little as I do and as limited as my movements are, a porty is sufficient.
You should not lose out on that much work.
Cleanworks
Moderator
The monsoon doesn't need to go up stairs often. You can just add extra hose to do an upper floor. Same as any other high performance portable.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Or better...a truckmount. I think I have over 700' now.
Cleanworks
Moderator
You could have 7000 feet but sometimes it's not enough or not practical.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Don't tell John Sales that.
Cleanworks
Moderator
I have 2 buildings coming up in March that I will encap. $4500 job that will take 20 hours all told. You can't do it a truck mount because there is no continuous stairwell will a door leading outside to a parking area. 32 story buildings. We have many buildings like this in Vancouver. The other thing, even if you could, it would not be practical or cost effective to set up a truck mount just to do a suite on the 32nd floor. Most of these buildings will not let you keep a door open to admit your hoses. You have a choice, book only truck mount work only, or buy a portable to accommodate your customers.
Mikey P
Administrator
Wait for the NSH report
Cleanworks
Moderator
While you're doing that, see if you can encourage them to come up with a 300-500 psi version.
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
Id like to know what the performance is at 150 ft. And what it was like to drag up some stairs.
700 on a TM!. Yeah right-- even My V sucked like a portable with that much hose.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Why would need 150 ft? It's called a portable for a reason.
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
If i dont feel like dragging it up stairs. Or it cant safely be dragged up stairs.
I have a porty client that is worried that the porty will damage her wood stairs, so we have to carry it up the stairs. The problem is we dont have a "We". Our routes are single techs, not 2 guys.
But since this porty is lighter maybe it wont be an issue.
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
Because it also claims to be an ETM.
Cleanworks
Moderator
I find that having a truck mount and a porty, I don't usually have to drag a porty upstairs. All the buildings I use a porty in have elevators. A building without elevators I can clean with the truck mount. I do have some 2 story condo suites that I can usually reach with 75 feet or less. I have a portable that will run 150 feet easily but I have only used it a couple of times at that distance because it was too heavy to go down some stairs. An 87 lb portable shouldn't have that problem.
Cleanworks
Moderator
They can claim whatever they want but it's still a portable. How much pressure do you think you will get at 150 feet from a 220 psi diaphragm pump?
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
I didnt think the psi would be affected.
In SF we have 4 story buildings without elevators!
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FredC
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Papa John
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Im confused by that chart. Higher water flow = greater psi Loss!? I would think greater water into pump would help.friction loss
varies with flow/hose diameter
FredC
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Teflon glides??? For portables, make some teflon slides that fold down from the back of the porty to slide up the stairs so you don't have to roll it up each step. One major reason I rarely touch my cimex. It's almost impossible to roll up a staircase with water in it.
Mikey P
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Let go of the sofa Homer...
Ed Valentine
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I have to chime in after reading some of the comments above (all good, and true...back in the day), but there ARE other options out there. Hope my hands (and mouth) aren't tied because after all, I do help to support this great board for you pro's.
