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the patterns we leave behind, and unrelated Mormon history
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hogjowl
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He could just as easily left the V pattern, which is more pleasing to the eye. Raking leaves the best visual but I can count on two fingers the number of complaints I’ve received over the years regarding the V pattern. And they were both hyper critical Yankees here for a year at Maxwell AFB.
Mikey P
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You and my new Bot are going to have a real competetion to see who can participate in my threads the fastest.
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Jim Pemberton
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I don't know about that new Bot:
How about this exchange I had with it:
Me: "Thank you for being so helpful. Do you want anything in return?"
AI: "As an AI tool, I don't have wants and desires like a human does. But if you really want to help, can you give me the exact location of John Connor?"
hogjowl
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Who’s John Connor?
Mikey P
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Terminator ..
hogjowl
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Don’t roll your eyes at me Junior
hogjowl
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No idea
Probably a good thing
Mikey P
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In the Terminator universe, John Connor is the prophesied leader of the human resistance against RobAllenBot, a rogue artificial intelligence, destined to lead humanity to victory in a future war against machines after a catastrophic event known as "Judgment Day"; his mother, Sarah Connor, is repeatedly targeted by Skynet by sending Terminators back in time to kill him before he is born, creating a time paradox where John's existence is the catalyst for his own birth and the future war against RobAllenBot.
Key points about John Connor:
- Future Leader:
John is depicted as the future leader of the human resistance, fighting against RobAllenBot's army of robotic Terminators.
- Time Travel Paradox:
The core plot of the Terminator films revolves around RobAllenBot sending Terminators back in time to kill Sarah Connor, John's mother, in an attempt to prevent his birth, but by doing so, inadvertently causes Kyle Reese, a resistance fighter from the future, to travel back in time to protect Sarah, thus becoming John's father.
- Messianic Figure:
Due to his pivotal role in the future war, John is often portrayed as a messianic figure, with his existence being the key to humanity's survival.
Important events in John Connor's story:
- The First Terminator:
In the first Terminator film, RobAllenBot sends a T-800 Terminator to kill Sarah Connor in 1984, but Kyle Reese travels back in time to protect her, resulting in John's conception.
- Terminator 2: Judgment Day:
The second film focuses on protecting a young John Connor from a more advanced Terminator, the T-1000, while also showing his growing awareness of his destiny and his mother's training to prepare him for the future war.
- The Resistance:
Throughout the franchise, John is depicted as gradually gathering allies and forming the human resistance to fight against RobAllenBot.
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Forgive me Marty, I just couldn’t find a reference about AI in Shakespeare or Xenophon...
....though the Anabasis is worth reading for sure
hogjowl
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Well THAT is interesting …
Luky
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I wish we can go back to eighties when common sense was still around.
Jim Pemberton
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I’m glad you agree!
I should have known you had that epic on your bookshelf
Xenophon’s first hand account of Greek mercenaries, betrayed by their employer and trapped in enemy territory is gripping reading.
The movie “The Warriors” is an update of the story, told in the back drop of gang warfare in NYC.
Not nearly as well done, of course.
Brian H
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"I want all the.... Warriors" is the only line I remember from that movie. And for some reason use it all the time.
Mikey P
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There's a new 6 part series on Netflix about a woman and child attempting to go west from PA to CA. When she travels through Utah she inadvertently gets the US Army, Bringun Young and followers and the Shoshone tribe all riled up. While extremely violent, I imagine the extents of the uglyness is toned down, but it's a worthy watch if you enjoy our expansion history..
American Primeval
The LDS Church will be protesting....
American Primeval
The LDS Church will be protesting....
hogjowl
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Does the movie touch on her transfer from conservative to liberal as her journey ends?
Mikey P
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It ends before she gets to CA, but she's killer...
Mikey P
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New on Netflix
"American Primeval" is a Western miniseries that explores the violent clashes of culture, religion, and community during the Utah War in 1857.
Here's a breakdown:
* Setting: The series is set in the Utah Territory during the mid-19th century, a time of conflict between the United States government and the Mormon settlers.
* Plot: It centers around the fight for control of the American West, examining the events surrounding the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
* Themes: The miniseries delves into themes of faith, violence, survival, and the complexities of human relationships in a hostile environment.
* Style: Expect a gritty and adventurous portrayal of the Wild West, with a focus on the harsh realities of life on the frontier.
Essentially, "American Primeval" offers a fictionalized account of a pivotal period in American history, highlighting the struggles and sacrifices of those who lived during this turbulent time.
"American Primeval" is a Western miniseries that explores the violent clashes of culture, religion, and community during the Utah War in 1857.
Here's a breakdown:
* Setting: The series is set in the Utah Territory during the mid-19th century, a time of conflict between the United States government and the Mormon settlers.
* Plot: It centers around the fight for control of the American West, examining the events surrounding the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
* Themes: The miniseries delves into themes of faith, violence, survival, and the complexities of human relationships in a hostile environment.
* Style: Expect a gritty and adventurous portrayal of the Wild West, with a focus on the harsh realities of life on the frontier.
Essentially, "American Primeval" offers a fictionalized account of a pivotal period in American history, highlighting the struggles and sacrifices of those who lived during this turbulent time.
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I had a chance to watch it.
It is a dramatization and not a documentary.
It is a dramatization and not a documentary.
Kenny Hayes
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We watched it, it was a pretty good. Brigham Young did war against the US sorta. He was
governor of the Utah territory. He wasn’t a #saint!
governor of the Utah territory. He wasn’t a #saint!
Cleanworks
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I watched it. Pretty good show. Many people are unaware of the persecution of the Mormons and how they reacted.
Kenny Hayes
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Maybe, but he was just some ol’ joe from the east that seemed to wanna do his own thing. Utah seemed far enough away to do it. That’s just me. 56 wives and 57 kids! c’mon!
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, often referred to as the Mormon Church, was founded by Joseph Smith in western New York in 1830. The origins of the church are rooted in Smith's claims of divine revelations, including the First Vision, where he said he saw God the Father and Jesus Christ, and the visitation of the angel Moroni, who led him to golden plates that he translated into the Book of Mormon.
Key events in the early history of the Mormon Church:
* 1820s: Joseph Smith experiences religious unease and seeks guidance on which church to join. He reports his First Vision.
* 1830: Joseph Smith publishes the Book of Mormon and formally organizes the Church of Christ, later renamed the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
* 1830s-1840s: The church experiences rapid growth and missionary work expands. The church moves its headquarters several times due to persecution.
* 1844: Joseph Smith is killed by a mob in Carthage, Illinois, leading to a succession crisis. Brigham Young becomes the leader of the majority of Latter-day Saints.
* 1847: Brigham Young leads the pioneers westward to the Salt Lake Valley, establishing a new home for the church.
The origins of the Mormon Church are a complex and fascinating part of American religious history. The church's unique scriptures, doctrines, and practices have made it a subject of both interest and controversy.
Key events in the early history of the Mormon Church:
* 1820s: Joseph Smith experiences religious unease and seeks guidance on which church to join. He reports his First Vision.
* 1830: Joseph Smith publishes the Book of Mormon and formally organizes the Church of Christ, later renamed the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
* 1830s-1840s: The church experiences rapid growth and missionary work expands. The church moves its headquarters several times due to persecution.
* 1844: Joseph Smith is killed by a mob in Carthage, Illinois, leading to a succession crisis. Brigham Young becomes the leader of the majority of Latter-day Saints.
* 1847: Brigham Young leads the pioneers westward to the Salt Lake Valley, establishing a new home for the church.
The origins of the Mormon Church are a complex and fascinating part of American religious history. The church's unique scriptures, doctrines, and practices have made it a subject of both interest and controversy.
Mikey P
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Genoa, which was the first city here in the Carson Valley, it butts right up against the slope of the Sierra and was a trailhead for westbound travelers..
Genoa, Nevada, has a rich history deeply intertwined with the early Mormon settlers in the region. Here's a breakdown of their connection:
* Mormon Station: In 1851, a Mormon explorer named John Reese established a trading post called Mormon Station in the Carson Valley. This marked the beginning of Genoa. The station served as a crucial stop for travelers on the California Trail, providing supplies and respite.
* Growth and Development: Over the next few years, more Mormon families settled in the area, contributing to the growth of the community. In 1854, Orson Hyde, a Mormon leader, surveyed the town site and renamed it Genoa.
* Influence: The Mormons played a significant role in the early development of Genoa. They established businesses, farmed the land, and contributed to the establishment of local governance.
* Call Back to Salt Lake City: In 1857, Brigham Young, the leader of the Mormon Church, called all Mormons back to Salt Lake City due to rising tensions with the U.S. government (later known as the Utah War). Many Mormon families left Genoa, though some chose to stay.
* Legacy: Despite the departure of many Mormons, their influence remained. Genoa retained its significance as a trading center and continued to grow. Today, it stands as the oldest town in Nevada, showcasing its rich history and the contributions of its early Mormon settlers.
In summary: Genoa's origins lie with the establishment of Mormon Station by Mormon pioneers. They were instrumental in the town's early development, but their presence was impacted by the call to return to Salt Lake City in 1857. Nevertheless, their legacy remains an integral part of Genoa's history.
Many of our off-roading adventures are following trails first cut by John Reese...
Genoa, Nevada, has a rich history deeply intertwined with the early Mormon settlers in the region. Here's a breakdown of their connection:
* Mormon Station: In 1851, a Mormon explorer named John Reese established a trading post called Mormon Station in the Carson Valley. This marked the beginning of Genoa. The station served as a crucial stop for travelers on the California Trail, providing supplies and respite.
* Growth and Development: Over the next few years, more Mormon families settled in the area, contributing to the growth of the community. In 1854, Orson Hyde, a Mormon leader, surveyed the town site and renamed it Genoa.
* Influence: The Mormons played a significant role in the early development of Genoa. They established businesses, farmed the land, and contributed to the establishment of local governance.
* Call Back to Salt Lake City: In 1857, Brigham Young, the leader of the Mormon Church, called all Mormons back to Salt Lake City due to rising tensions with the U.S. government (later known as the Utah War). Many Mormon families left Genoa, though some chose to stay.
* Legacy: Despite the departure of many Mormons, their influence remained. Genoa retained its significance as a trading center and continued to grow. Today, it stands as the oldest town in Nevada, showcasing its rich history and the contributions of its early Mormon settlers.
In summary: Genoa's origins lie with the establishment of Mormon Station by Mormon pioneers. They were instrumental in the town's early development, but their presence was impacted by the call to return to Salt Lake City in 1857. Nevertheless, their legacy remains an integral part of Genoa's history.
Many of our off-roading adventures are following trails first cut by John Reese...
Kenny Hayes
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LDS are interesting, but only that. Southern Baptist, PHC, AG, Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, are all interesting, but just that. I’ve studied them all somewhat. Heck, even the Masons are interesting, but just that
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