Austin Willoughby
Member
It has a 59 I thought?
Thermal wave ii vortec no pressure!
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Austin Willoughby
Member
It's a 5m which is atleast a 56 right?
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Sutorbilt/Roots/Tuthill equivalencies:
5m = 56 = 5006
5L = 59 = 5009
4m = 45 = 4005
4L = 47 = 4007
5m = 56 = 5006
5L = 59 = 5009
4m = 45 = 4005
4L = 47 = 4007
Austin Willoughby
Member
5m beats my 4m that was actually properly not performing at 100 percent so was maybe 275 cfm not 300 it was suppose to have. I'll love the difference I'm sure
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
The shaft configuration is identical between each mfg 1st column and 2nd column unit
However the longer lobed blowers have larger plumbing.
However the longer lobed blowers have larger plumbing.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
5m (5" gears) is MUCH bigger than 4m (4" gears)
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FB7777
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Excuse me while I go dry hump my Butlers....
Austin Willoughby
Member
That I get hence while I'll love the vacuum performance a lot better lol
Austin Willoughby
Member
Lee dude your full of knowledge I love it! Keep it coming I love understanding how and why things work!
Cleanworks
Moderator
For some reason I always thought a 4m had less power than a 45. After looking at the specs I realize that 2 of my trucks have 45 blowers. I think I was thinking that max rpm was 2600 instead of 3600.
Hack Attack
Member
the smaller blowers match the smaller engines rev range well.. full thottle!
Cleanworks
Moderator
Hack Attack
Member
I thought cds was 47? Not that I know much about them, other than the local distributer refuse to bring them in 
Austin Willoughby
Member
I have a perfectly rebuilt 45 blower if anyone needs one is interested in buying it.
Cleanworks
Moderator
They have different models, 4.2, 4.6, 4.8. each step up has a little more power. I have the 4.2 which is a 4 ml blower.I thought cds was 47? Not that I know much about them, other than the local distributer refuse to bring them in
Austin Willoughby
Member
So great news I have water pressure after bypassing the heat exchanger that was leaking however machine is still shutting down so I need to do a little more investigation.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
The COMPONENT manufacturers are pretty transparent and accurate in their numbering nomenclature and description.
HOWEVER:
The truckmount MANUFACTURERS can and do use disguising terminology and misleading model descriptions that are, to put it bluntly, weaselly attempts to mislead.
Bane Clene would remove component ID plates and grind off the rivets before a bit of Krylon artwork.
Other manufacturers use equally misleading model numbers to imply bigger vacuum and performance specifications.
HOWEVER:
The truckmount MANUFACTURERS can and do use disguising terminology and misleading model descriptions that are, to put it bluntly, weaselly attempts to mislead.
Bane Clene would remove component ID plates and grind off the rivets before a bit of Krylon artwork.
Other manufacturers use equally misleading model numbers to imply bigger vacuum and performance specifications.
Austin Willoughby
Member
Well it needed quite a bit of TLC but ran and worked fine so long story short I thought well hell I'll tear it down and redo the whole damn thing. I resealed and painted motor, rebearing and powder coated blower. Cleaned up and painted other components, got to the frame which was rusted out on bottom and said yep now it's become to much for me to deal with lol. I just got tired of working on it really. When did you say anything about tearing it down? I must've missed that
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
I think that was aimed at his dad, lol
I have 3 machines on the bench, plus a trailer full of transplant parts. Will keep me busy this winter playing with them.
Mikey P
Administrator
I knew I should have © that saying
Austin Willoughby
Member
Well if your interested in parts let me know bc I have all the parts off my old one except waste tank and water box
Austin Willoughby
Member
How much psi are the stainless steel and copper heat exchangers rated for?
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Lee Stockwell
FOJL
SS usually more than 1000, depending on fittings.
Copper, like the Graham helicoil, 700 to be safe.
Garage- built usually less despite any claims.
Austin Willoughby
Member
That's hard to believe simple bc my thermwave 2 has copper engine coolant get echanger but is manual says it can produce 1200 psi?
Cleanworks
Moderator
Depends on the type of copper. Lg heaters range from 600-2200 psi.
Austin Willoughby
Member
That makes more sense seeing I also have a stainless steel exhaust heat exchanger
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Lots of blown exchangers prove otherwise.
